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Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers

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  • G [email protected]

    Because I don't watch random videos, I watch people I'm subscribed to and they don't exist on other platforms. I would love to switch, really. The very fact I'm on Lemmy tells you that I'm open to doing that kind of thing.

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    If the people you subscribe to are not ones who monetization is important you may want to consider reaching out to them and asking if they'd consider cross posting to PeerTube or another YouTube alternative. They may appreciate not putting all their eggs in one basket and reaching new potential fans.

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    • M [email protected]

      I'm fine with reasonable ads. Plex Live TV has ads that don't always get caught by NextDNS for me and it's always some local business and like 30 seconds, NBD it's a free service and needs to operate somehow and I'm not aware of any major privacy breaches from Plex. I feel the same way about YT video sponsor segments, they don't always get caught by ReVanced, also, NBD the creator also needs to get paid for their work.

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      Thanks for your thoughtful response!

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      • S [email protected]

        Pass on sticking within the bounds of treason and tyranny. I'm gonna keep idealizing beyond that.

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        No shit. The question is just about the current system. Your answer is like saying “How should we implement universal healthcare while capitalism still exists?” “Pass”. It doesn’t make sense.

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        • siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

          I've noticed occasional "buffering" before playback starts through the past week or so. Takes like ten seconds before the video starts playing. Hasn't been worse than that so far, knock on wood.

          Youtube feels like an impossible service to actually compete with, whether through the enormous and complicated setup required or amassing creators/users. It's basically a monopoly and it sucks. One will just have to resist Google's bullshit using whatever means available for as long as possible.

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          #200

          Yeah, I run multiple ad-blockers and haven't noticed any slowdown or other degradation.

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            #201

            Remember when videos would buffer all the time on non-chrome browsers lol

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            • B [email protected]

              Interesting. I didn’t think anyone was cool with any ads.

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              #202

              I remember a time when ads were loud, obnoxious and popped out. So I'm fine with minimal sidebar and an ad at the start middle if the video was long enough and at the end.

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              • siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                I've noticed occasional "buffering" before playback starts through the past week or so. Takes like ten seconds before the video starts playing. Hasn't been worse than that so far, knock on wood.

                Youtube feels like an impossible service to actually compete with, whether through the enormous and complicated setup required or amassing creators/users. It's basically a monopoly and it sucks. One will just have to resist Google's bullshit using whatever means available for as long as possible.

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                Still I prefer buffering over the inane noises of commercials

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                • siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                  I've noticed occasional "buffering" before playback starts through the past week or so. Takes like ten seconds before the video starts playing. Hasn't been worse than that so far, knock on wood.

                  Youtube feels like an impossible service to actually compete with, whether through the enormous and complicated setup required or amassing creators/users. It's basically a monopoly and it sucks. One will just have to resist Google's bullshit using whatever means available for as long as possible.

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                  #204

                  Peertube is working on breaking the monopoly. I try to use it more.

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                  • C [email protected]

                    Ahh seeing images load line-by-line and you get excited as you can actually start to tell what the image is!

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                    #205

                    "Finally, a nipple!"

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                      #206

                      Freetube works pretty well, there's a cat and mouse game with youtube changes though.

                      https://freetubeapp.io/

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                      • C [email protected]

                        I'm finding I'm using youtube less and less that I can't actually remember the last time I used it for anything. Youtube has so much crap now.

                        Because of their monetisation scheme for content creators, it was profitable for creators to drag 15 mins of information out to one hour, and then to include shock faces as thumbs to get more clicks, and then to get more viewers just to watch a bit of the video as viewership dwindles into just mindlessly watching suggestions.

                        I feel sorry for those creators who have gone balls deep with youtube content and who have no "plan b".

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                        #207

                        I think that says more about the channels you watch and your viewing habits. I enjoy STEM and STEM related channels; I don't experience the same as what you've described.

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                          Peertube is working on breaking the monopoly. I try to use it more.

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                          Never happening.

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                          • V [email protected]

                            Nestlé: I have done nothing wrong, ever, in my life.

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                            The US government: I know that, and I love you

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                              Never happening.

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                              #210

                              It kind of is already happening.
                              For example @[email protected] is soon to be making their instance available for state related institutions.

                              Small steps in a big picture.
                              Edit: thanks for showing me how to tag @commentBelow

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                                Because YouTube is where shit happens dude. Yeah sure theres peertube and others, but frankly, nobody that people care about are uploading to them. Not to mention they don't offer the monetization opportunities for creators that YouTube does.

                                Ad block and sponsor block and call it a day.

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                                #211

                                Exactly. I dont mind a little extra buffering. I mostly watch things in 720 or 1080, and I've barely noticed the change.

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                                  Aha I'm not crazy! There was about a week where YouTube videos were so slow and we mainly use SmartTube on the shield TV, the fucked up part is I pay for YouTube premium, I just like the UI and options available on SmartTube better then the default app.

                                  It did seem to get better, so maybe they realized I fucking pay for this service.

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                                  • J [email protected]

                                    This made me laugh. I wonder which one will prevail in the end

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                                    Piracy always prevails

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                                      Yeah, I run multiple ad-blockers and haven't noticed any slowdown or other degradation.

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                                      #214

                                      I've noticed a lot of videos give me a still ad and make me click "skip" at the very start of videos through my ad blockers.

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                                        Still I prefer buffering over the inane noises of commercials

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                                        Yeah, I'd genuinely rather watch whatever amount of seconds forced ads are of black, silent screen than see an ad. It sucks and is awkward, but whatever.

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                                          So this is it. The enshittification has reached slowlorris levels.

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