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Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers

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    We can live without YouTube, they can’t live without us.

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      I've got 500Mb fiber internet and YouTube refuses to stream above 360p unless i manually change it. Which each update becomes harder and harder to do as they hide the video quality button somewhere else.

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      If you use Firefox:

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-video-quality/

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      • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

        I mean, you don't need anything; it'll work with no flags. I have these:

        $ cat ~/.config/yt-dlp/config
        --embed-subs
        --embed-metadata
        --embed-chapters
        --embed-thumbnail
        --sponsorblock-mark=all
        $
        

        That'll just embed some useful metadata in the file.

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        Note that subtitles doesn't include automatic subtitles. For that you have to do --write-auto-subs in conjunction

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        • apfelwoischoppen@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          Good, kill your product

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          #44

          I use adblockers, but I'm confused how this would hurt google if people using adblockers stopped using youtube.

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            #45

            I can't tell an honest difference between 1080p and 720p from across a room. On a monitor, sure, but I grew up in the 90's. Anything 480 and above is tolerable to me.

            I'm pirating it, should I demand my money back for poor service? Lmao

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              I've been seeing this for a couple weeks now along with a popup telling me "ad blockers aren't allowed" at work where I'm forced to use Chrome. I have UBlock Lite installed. Typically a refresh takes care of the popup and a 10 second delay later, the video loads.

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              uBlock Lite is simply not as potent, so it's understandable it can be beaten. Almost like Google is abusing their monopoly

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              • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                If Google really wants to, they can crack down on yt-dlp, and I assume that if enough people are using it, they're likely to do such a crackdown. Like, this works for the moment, but...

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                Virtual desktop program that watches videos and uses sponsorblock and adblock after the fact to pick it clean and re-encode it.

                I'm that level of anal

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                • R [email protected]

                  theoretically anything is possible so what

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                  #48

                  Right. At the end of the bullshit, the content still plays to completion if the user hits play. We can script and Ai and remove ads all day long after a program snags the feed.

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                    My ip was blocked a LONG time ago by google for using yt-dlp. Works with VPN but nothing else. Fun times. I think I only pulled a couple of videos off for archival services. On my own channel non-the-less.

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                    I'd just hop a vps around to different countries.

                    ...I'd never do it here, admins, honest lol

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                      Ive been commenting on creators videos asking them to upload elsewhere as well. I doubt it will work, but we could try

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                          Like it or not, YouTube still has a fuckton of good, informative tutorials and advice on how to fix things or make things made by individuals with a phone camera and no script, who make them not for money but for the pride in sharing their knowledge. I shared some fix it videos for my van and a very obscure phone, and consumed a lot of fix it videos for washing machines, motorbikes and furniture.

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                          This. YouTube is extremely helpful for anyone who can't afford to take their stuff to a repair service or hire someone to fix something at their home. Just a few months ago, I thought my washer was done for, but it turned out to be a super simple fix that no website mentioned except for a super obscure YouTube video with only a couple hundred views. Saved me hundreds of dollars. There's countless other anecdotes like that over the years.

                          This is what sucks so much about Google's monopoly. I truly wish a cooperative of governments and/or academia created a publicly funded alternative as well as hosting an archive of YouTube on it. It would of course need to be administered by a non-partisan committee made up of representatives from multiple countries that had numerous safeguards against governmental political censorship. Hoping for a grassroots alternative is a lost cause, as the hosting and administrative expenses are just way too cost prohibitive, so publicly funded is the only solution I can see as being plausible

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                          • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                            If you use Firefox:

                            https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-video-quality/

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                            I'm don't having a functioning computer right now because i can't afford even a used one. I'm just using the YouTube app on ny phone or tv

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                              HA! Jokes on them! I'm running a budget dell PC from 10 years ago! The PC itself is slower than any delays they cause! I'm talkin' 3-5 minutes to load each video. Sometimes the whole PC freezes, and you need to unplug it. Sometimes the browser crashes right at the end, so you gotta relaunch the browser, and then wait 20 minutes for all the tabs to populate. Then you gotta end task on all the individual windows. Then you gotta reload just the tab you're looking at, and THEN you can wait 5 minutes again.

                              You think I'm even going to notice your 10 second delay?

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                              I know times are hard, but you could build/find a PC for <$300 that doesn't run that badly. Hell, even a ~$150-200 tablet would be way better than that.

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                              • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                                Virtual desktop program that watches videos and uses sponsorblock and adblock after the fact to pick it clean and re-encode it.

                                I'm that level of anal

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                                I'm not really following video DRM, but my understanding is that Widevine won't run in a VM with a virtualized video card like that.

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                                  Note that subtitles doesn't include automatic subtitles. For that you have to do --write-auto-subs in conjunction

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                                  #56

                                  Thanks.

                                  EDIT: There isn't an --embed-auto-subs, but there is a --write-auto-subs.

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                                    Ublock origin (if your using it) "fixed" the issue shortly after. Im convinced someone at google works on adblock lol. Probably not true but the timing was really fast.

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                                    Spy vs spy

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                                    • sinkinglotus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      I'd sooner spend five minutes waiting for the video to buffer than five seconds watching an ad

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                                      Too true

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        Ive been commenting on creators videos asking them to upload elsewhere as well. I doubt it will work, but we could try

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                                        Great idea. Eventually, and if enough ask, it could be a thing.

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                                          We can live without YouTube, they can’t live without us.

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                                          This is their way to try and get you into their money making fold.

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