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Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers

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  • A [email protected]

    Revanced is fine so far

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    #161

    Can confirm.

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    • B [email protected]

      www.youtube.com/##.paper-toast-open.yt-notification-action-renderer.style-scope.toast-button

      I believe it was this one, just add it as part of the filter list in ublock

      The extension I used for user agent was this one. I don't think it matters what you spoof as, but I chose to spoof as chrome.
      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/

      So far it worked and I'm back to no ads and no interruptions

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      #162

      Okay, I am trying to add it. Just copy your YouTube stuff -> go to myFilters -> paste?

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        #163

        I'm finding I'm using youtube less and less that I can't actually remember the last time I used it for anything. Youtube has so much crap now.

        Because of their monetisation scheme for content creators, it was profitable for creators to drag 15 mins of information out to one hour, and then to include shock faces as thumbs to get more clicks, and then to get more viewers just to watch a bit of the video as viewership dwindles into just mindlessly watching suggestions.

        I feel sorry for those creators who have gone balls deep with youtube content and who have no "plan b".

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        • M [email protected]

          My wife and I were discussing this. This isnt "slow" to us, its just a tiny bit inconvenient. We were used to the old AOL pictures taking a good minute or two to load.

          We would get rid of Youtube before we get ads.

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          #164

          Ahh seeing images load line-by-line and you get excited as you can actually start to tell what the image is!

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          • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

            I mean, you don't need anything; it'll work with no flags. I have these:

            $ cat ~/.config/yt-dlp/config
            --embed-subs
            --embed-metadata
            --embed-chapters
            --embed-thumbnail
            --sponsorblock-mark=all
            $
            

            That'll just embed some useful metadata in the file.

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            #165

            Also if you just want the audio to listen to (I like to do this with TTRPGs) you can do:

            yt-dlp -x -f bestaudio

            Also works great in a pinch for getting sounds and music for FoundryVTT.

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            • psythik@lemm.eeP [email protected]

              I would but my issue with that is that SponsorBlock doesn't work on downloaded videos.

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              #166

              Skytube has an option for clipping mid-video ads out of downloaded videos, if that helps.

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                Oh, uh, pass.

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                #167

                Pass on what? Using YouTube at all?

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                • coil@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                  There was a time where they only used banner ads. Or ads before the video and not in the middle. Honestly, if they had a cheap, no frills ad free sub, I'd pay for it.

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                  #168

                  That’s really interesting! Would you pay $8 for a no ads subscription?

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                  • P [email protected]

                    Skytube has an option for clipping mid-video ads out of downloaded videos, if that helps.

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                    I use SponsorBlock for more than just skipping sponsored segments. It's also useful for skipping intros, "like and subscribe" messages, and other general annoyances in most YouTube videos. Once you get used to it, you can't go without.

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                      #170

                      Daniel Suelo for CEO of YouTube!

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                        #171

                        I didn’t know if I’m crazy or of YouTube is genuinely slow for me (with adblocker)

                        Turns out I was not crazy

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Also if you just want the audio to listen to (I like to do this with TTRPGs) you can do:

                          yt-dlp -x -f bestaudio

                          Also works great in a pinch for getting sounds and music for FoundryVTT.

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                          I'm pretty sure that it defaults to best quality.

                          goes looking at man page

                             By default, yt-dlp tries to download the best available quality if you don't  pass  any  options.   This  is  generally
                             equivalent to using -f bestvideo*+bestaudio/best.  However, if multiple audiostreams is enabled (--audio-multistreams),
                             the  default  format changes to -f bestvideo+bestaudio/best.  Similarly, if ffmpeg is unavailable, or if you use yt-dlp
                             to stream to stdout (-o -), the default becomes -f best/bestvideo+bestaudio.
                          

                          So I think that it should normally pull down the best audio unless you get into some situation where YouTube doesn't offer a format that simultaneously has the combination of highest audio quality with the highest video quality; if it has to do so to get the highest video quality then, it'll sacrifice audio quality.

                          EDIT: Hmm. I could have sworn that there was more text about prioritizing relative audio and video quality at one point in the man page, but I don't see anything there now. Maybe it can just always get the best audio quality, regardless of video quality, can pull 'em entirely separately.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            You're right, but also They get alot more from the deal than you acknowledge. The service has never been free. They already had a profitable model, and now they want even more. I call it evil, but in a sense it’s standard corporate behaviour.

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                            The line must go up, it enshitifies every company eventually.

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                            • B [email protected]

                              That’s really interesting! Would you pay $8 for a no ads subscription?

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                              Most likely, especially if it's not locked to one device. I know about their premium lite sub, but 8 dollars for "less" ads isn't going to do it for me.

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                                Okay, I am trying to add it. Just copy your YouTube stuff -> go to myFilters -> paste?

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                                Yea, I have a couple more that I forget does what (I think a couple are for hiding youtube games and shorts and stuff), but it should just look like this in my filters.

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                                • coil@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                  Most likely, especially if it's not locked to one device. I know about their premium lite sub, but 8 dollars for "less" ads isn't going to do it for me.

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                                  That’s how much my student subscription is, that’s why I was curious. I think it’s $6.99 plus tax?

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #177

                                    Why aren't you using another platform?

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                                    • frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.worldF [email protected]

                                      A wild YouTube appeared!

                                      Go, uBlock Origin!

                                      Wild YouTube used Throttle!

                                      It's not very effective...

                                      uBlock Origin used Evolve!

                                      It's super effective!

                                      YouTube fainted!

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                                      This made me laugh. I wonder which one will prevail in the end

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        strip out the HDCP

                                        Interesting, I had figured that was possible in principle but hadn't kept up with what was actually around.

                                        But still, the HDCP stream is decompressed video, so if you want to save it, you'll have to either put it through yet another layer or lossy compression, or burn a ridiculous amount of disk space compared to the compressed stream that Youtube sent to your computer.

                                        We'll see how things go. Google in the past has made occasional modest gestures to get in the way of downloading, but they haven't made serious effort to prevent it. Who knows whether that will last.

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                                        #179

                                        It's certainly not an ideal solution, but it's an option that will usually work.

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                                          Yea, I have a couple more that I forget does what (I think a couple are for hiding youtube games and shorts and stuff), but it should just look like this in my filters.

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                                          #180

                                          Ty so very much kind person.

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