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  • P [email protected]

    Is that what I said?

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    #103

    Yes. You asked who is comitting genocide in an attempt to shut me up, because you thought the side that commits genocide must inherently be the bad person in any situation. Seen in the context that I said not to frame Iran as a victim, this attempt to contradict me must mean you think Iran IS the victim here. They aren't. Now pack up your bullshit attempt to backtrack, and try to argue like an adult.

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    • A [email protected]

      Was the Soviet Union a victim when Germany attacked them?

      ...Really? That's the comparison you're gonna go with?

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      #104

      Yes. Were they?

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      • M [email protected]

        The evidence is that Israel is a settler colony established and supported by the Western colonial powers.

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        I'm not sure you understood the question

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        • sarge@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

          nobody should have nuclear weapons.

          Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like if the scientists working on the Manhattan project had all agreed it's too much and intentionally sabotage every test.

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          #106

          It would have been discovered later on, perhaps by another power first.

          We would still have all the atrocities that happened after Hiroshima and Nagasaki but people in the West would not suffer the anxiety that they could be possibly get hurt as well.

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          • D [email protected]

            Iran is literally funding all terrorist organizations in the region and even beyond that directly support Ruzies 🙄

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            #107

            Whatever reason you give its not exclusive to iran, furthermore trying to defend actions of israel against iranian people is just golden

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            • R [email protected]

              Not exactly. West didn't care too much about other non-western countries having nukes. Two nations who have nukes borderline almost started a war in Asia (Pakistan and India). Iran is a special case, just like North Korea is. Unlike others, the two I mentioned have essentially declared themselves as the enemies of the west, so naturally west wants to keep them away from such destructive weapons

              EDIT: Third one would be Russia, but there was already conflicts and a long standoff. The Russia has made it clear they can invade everyone but no one can invade them. Coincidentally, same could be said for USA.

              Just my two cents, from some philosophing east european slav here.

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              #108

              Iran is a special case. Unlike others, the two I mentioned have essentially declared themselves as the enemies of the west,

              You reversed it. The west made itself the enemy of iran

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              • D [email protected]

                Iran is literally funding all terrorist organizations in the region and even beyond that directly support Ruzies 🙄

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                #109

                Resistance groups

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                • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                  Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                  The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                  "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                  They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                  • M [email protected]

                    So let me get this straight. Because one of the countries in this war is comitting genocide, the other country MUST be a victim of the war? Was the Soviet Union a victim when Germany attacked them?

                    No. Israel is committing genocide. We all fucking know this, no need to point it out. Iran is a theorcratic rule that tortures people for holding hands with the wrong sex. They regard women as household items. Iran is not a fucking victim. The iranian government needs to fucking suffer violently, preferably by the hands of their own people, but Israel will do.

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                    You must understand this is the zeitgeist. The entirety of the Middle East are victims, including mullahs, Taliban, autocrats and sheikhs. Crazy how people can't at least view it from two sides or in grey tones.

                    I won't disagree that the Western-led world order has created instability in the region and worldview, but I sincerely doubt that an Islamic world order would be in any way better. Most are just jealous that they don't get to do the exploitation

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                    • P [email protected]

                      History, history, history... (very long story)

                      Starts in 2022

                      My dude...

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                      #112

                      Duh. OP asked about the position world leaders hold on the topic, not The Entire History of Everything™. Hence, the latter was cut for brevity.

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                      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                        Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                        The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                        "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                        They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                        #113

                        People with nuclear weapons have forbidden you from having nuclear weapons?

                        Humans are a goofy lot.

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                        • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                          Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                          The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                          "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                          They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                          #114

                          Iran: "We're good then, we don't just have one."

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                          • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                            Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                            The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                            "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                            They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                            #115

                            Whatever.

                            Don’t care if yanks go get blown up in the Middle East. It’s all in service of enriching Halliburton and the military industrial complex. Yawn. It is 2003 again?

                            Whatever happened to: “tRuMp iS tHe PeAcE pReSIdEnT”.

                            I thought the US was trillions in debt. There’s always money for war.

                            Can’t wait to laugh at this smoothbrained crew of assclowns as they try to fight a foreign war. Good luck maintaining those supply chains for US war mongering when the whole world fucking hates you.

                            FFS. Anyway. Next.

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                            • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                              Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                              The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                              "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                              They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                              #116

                              found a few familiar resources in iran that the western world and its allies would love to gain full control of.

                              Oil
                              Due to the vast quantities of crude oil reserves within Iran, the nation is considered an energy superpower. According to official records from the Iranian government, in 2006, the crude oil reserves in the nation were estimated to be 132.5 billion barrels. At the time, Iran's reserves were estimated to be 15% of the total reserves of all the members of the organization of petroleum exporting countries. In comparison to the rest of the world, Iran's 2006 oil reserves were approximately 11.4% of the global reserves. After the discovery of oil reserves around the town of Bushehr, the oil reserves in Iran increased by roughly 32%. According to the International Monetary Fund, the monetary value of Iran's oil reserves was estimated to be $10 trillion. The Iranian government entered into several agreements with oil companies from a variety of nations such as the United Kingdom, Russia, the Netherlands, and Spain to develop the oil reserves. Several oil refineries are situated within Iran's boundaries with the most prominent being Abadan, Esfahan, and Bandar-e Abbas. The main method of transporting Iranian petroleum is through the pipeline. According to a study carried out in 2004, pipelines in Iran transported roughly 69% of the refined petroleum products.

                              Natural Gas
                              Iran also has massive reserves of natural gas that according to official government records are estimated to be 1,201 trillion cubic feet. Iran's reserves are some of the largest in the world as they account for close to 18% of the world's total. The only nation with larger gas reserves than Iran is Russia. In 2011, the Iranian petroleum minister released a report indicating that Iran's reserves of natural gas had increased significantly due to the discovery of gas reserves within the Caspian Sea. The Caspian reserves were estimated to be 50 trillion cubic feet. Iran is currently exploiting a limited amount of its natural gas reserves, and on average it exploits 5.5 trillion cubic feet annually. The Iranian government has planned to invest huge sums of money in improving the gas industry. The government has planned to set aside $15 billion every year to increase the annual natural gas production. The Iranian government is planning to take advantage of the increase in the demand for natural gas all over the world. Estimates indicate that over 20 years the global demand for natural gas would increase by either 2% or 3%. Some of the main markets for Iranian natural gas include China and india

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                              • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                                The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                                "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                                They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                                NO ONE should have them. Dumb asses.

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                                • P [email protected]

                                  "Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,”

                                  I guess we all just have to pretend Israel doesn't exist?

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                                  Tbf they both are...

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                                  • M [email protected]

                                    Israel is the principal source of regional instability and terror and everyone and his dog knows this.

                                    The kowtowing to Trump and his Zionist sponsors by the client states of the US Empire is an insult to objective reality.

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                                    Seriously. We’re supposed to regard Iran as an existential threat that is worth any price to neutralize. Okay, boomers.

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                                    • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                      Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                                      The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                                      "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                                      They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                                      Nukes for me but not for thee

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                                      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                        Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                                        The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                                        "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                                        They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                                        #121

                                        Israel is the criminal and everyone knows it.

                                        Israel will face the long-term consequences of its reckless behavior. Just not today.

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                                        • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                          Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                                          The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                                          "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                                          They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                                          Even the statement is not about protecting people lives but about market stability.

                                          They are not working for the people...

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