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  • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

    Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

    The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

    "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

    They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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    Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror.

    Ok does someone want to catch me up on this opinion shared by world leaders but quite literally no one else?

    Like yes, Iran is a terrible authoritarian state that is very dangerous. But so is Saudi Arabia?!

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      Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror.

      Ok does someone want to catch me up on this opinion shared by world leaders but quite literally no one else?

      Like yes, Iran is a terrible authoritarian state that is very dangerous. But so is Saudi Arabia?!

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      I’m not defending anyone here, but Iran has made it very clear they want to use one

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      • sarge@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

        nobody should have nuclear weapons.

        Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like if the scientists working on the Manhattan project had all agreed it's too much and intentionally sabotage every test.

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        The Germans would have beat us to the bomb and used it and we would all be Nazis.

        What if the bomb just wasn’t possible? WWII would have lasted a lot longer, but the allies were going to win eventually at that point. There would not have been a Cold War (at least not one influenced by an arms race)

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        • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

          Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

          The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

          "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

          They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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          Jesus fucking Christ. Fuck all of these assholes.

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          • M [email protected]

            Israel is the principal source of regional instability and terror and everyone and his dog knows this.

            The kowtowing to Trump and his Zionist sponsors by the client states of the US Empire is an insult to objective reality.

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            And not only that, Israel has nuclear weapons.

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              The Germans would have beat us to the bomb and used it and we would all be Nazis.

              What if the bomb just wasn’t possible? WWII would have lasted a lot longer, but the allies were going to win eventually at that point. There would not have been a Cold War (at least not one influenced by an arms race)

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              either that, or nukes would be used first in korean war instead. imo it's a good thing that nukes were first used against the most cartoonishly evil fascist state imaginable at that point

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              • fullsquare@awful.systemsF [email protected]

                either that, or nukes would be used first in korean war instead. imo it's a good thing that nukes were first used against the most cartoonishly evil fascist state imaginable at that point

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                The Japanese?

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                  you don't have to choose a side and you can wish everyone involved a very nice visit to hague

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                    The Germans would have beat us to the bomb and used it and we would all be Nazis.

                    What if the bomb just wasn’t possible? WWII would have lasted a lot longer, but the allies were going to win eventually at that point. There would not have been a Cold War (at least not one influenced by an arms race)

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                    Germany was miles off, they lost the war before the first bomb was dropped, 7th May vs. 6th August. Its impossible for them to be both behind the Allied effort to make a nuclear bomb (so would have not been read to drop one until after 6th August) and still make one after they surrendered.

                    The Allies very much lied to the scientists about how far along the Germans were to guilt them into making one against objections raised at the time.

                    Now if those defecting Nazis who joined NASA and the like post war would have instead been used to replace objecting Allied scientists in the nuclear program, thats a real possibility.

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                      Israel is the principal source of regional instability and terror and everyone and his dog knows this.

                      The kowtowing to Trump and his Zionist sponsors by the client states of the US Empire is an insult to objective reality.

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                      Please don't make Iran out to be some sort of victim in all this. What Israel is doing is wrong, but Iran has funded a lot of terrorists throughout the years, and execute people in medival ways for holding hands with the "wrong" person.

                      The iranian government is pure fucking evil and deserves to die horrible deaths for what they instigate and fund around the world and in their local area.

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                        The Japanese?

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                        Yeah, who else. Nuking Dresden at that point would be useless

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                        • fullsquare@awful.systemsF [email protected]

                          Yeah, who else. Nuking Dresden at that point would be useless

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                          Just asking. The Nazis we’re pretty cartoonish.

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                          • deflated0ne@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                            Iran will have nukes. They don't have a choice. Not anymore. It's existentialism at this point. Israel has been trying to engineer a war against Iran for more than 30 years. All the while Iran has played along. IAEA inspectors and all that good shit. And it was all for nothing. Iran knows that now. So does everyone else.

                            If you're an adversary to the US and its Imperial interests then its a matter of when, not if. Doesn't matter if or how closely you follow their rules. They will come for you in time.

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                            They're out of time. US B52s and B2s will obliterate what's left of their nuclear facilities. F35s and drones will do the rest. For all the Zionist propaganda, there's absolutely no evidence Iran wanted to weaponise Uranium and every evidence that they wanted to cooperate with the West in return for sanctions relief, as they did in 2015 with the JCPOA.

                            The question is can Iran make it painful enough for the US by causing chaos in the straits of Hormuz and damaging oil and gas infrastructure that Trump loses interest and declares victory before he imposes regime change, which is what Netanyahu really wants.

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                            • hubi@feddit.orgH [email protected]

                              Literally nobody would care to mess with Iran if they hadn't been funding radical militias all over the middle east.

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                              "Radical militias" you mean groups that opposed Zionist colonialsm. If Israel didn't exist these militias wouldn't either.

                              This is Western imperial propaganda to obfuscate the fundamentally anti colonial nature of Hamas and Hezbollah by labelling them as Islamic terrorists.

                              The real islamic extremists like Al Qaeda and ISIS were in fact sponsored by the CIA.

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                              • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                                I believe ALL of the following;

                                • Iran should not have nuclear weapons
                                • Israel should not have nuclear weapons
                                • Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
                                • Israel should not genocide
                                • Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
                                • Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
                                • Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.

                                My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.

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                                My exact thoughts

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  Germany was miles off, they lost the war before the first bomb was dropped, 7th May vs. 6th August. Its impossible for them to be both behind the Allied effort to make a nuclear bomb (so would have not been read to drop one until after 6th August) and still make one after they surrendered.

                                  The Allies very much lied to the scientists about how far along the Germans were to guilt them into making one against objections raised at the time.

                                  Now if those defecting Nazis who joined NASA and the like post war would have instead been used to replace objecting Allied scientists in the nuclear program, thats a real possibility.

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                                  There's no real way of knowing what would have happened, but knowledge is eventually gained. Somebody would have developed nukes even if it tool a lot longer and we'd end up being in a similar situation eventually.

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                                    Israel is the principal source of regional instability and terror and everyone and his dog knows this.

                                    The kowtowing to Trump and his Zionist sponsors by the client states of the US Empire is an insult to objective reality.

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                                    Two things (countries) can be bad at the same time

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                                    • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                                      I believe ALL of the following;

                                      • Iran should not have nuclear weapons
                                      • Israel should not have nuclear weapons
                                      • Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
                                      • Israel should not genocide
                                      • Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
                                      • Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
                                      • Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.

                                      My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.

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                                      Exactly. This is not a competition, we don’t have to cheer for either side. Horrible things are happening

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                                      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                        Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                                        The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                                        "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                                        They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                                        “We will vaporize every living thing on the face of the earth in order to ensure that the threat of Iran possibly maybe but probably not having a nuclear weapon will be neutralized!”

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                                        • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                                          I believe ALL of the following;

                                          • Iran should not have nuclear weapons
                                          • Israel should not have nuclear weapons
                                          • Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
                                          • Israel should not genocide
                                          • Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
                                          • Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
                                          • Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.

                                          My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.

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                                          Damn, that's the most reasonable take I've heard all year. Kudos

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