G7 leaders: ‘Iran can never have a nuclear weapon’
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Yeah, who else. Nuking Dresden at that point would be useless
Just asking. The Nazis we’re pretty cartoonish.
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Iran will have nukes. They don't have a choice. Not anymore. It's existentialism at this point. Israel has been trying to engineer a war against Iran for more than 30 years. All the while Iran has played along. IAEA inspectors and all that good shit. And it was all for nothing. Iran knows that now. So does everyone else.
If you're an adversary to the US and its Imperial interests then its a matter of when, not if. Doesn't matter if or how closely you follow their rules. They will come for you in time.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]They're out of time. US B52s and B2s will obliterate what's left of their nuclear facilities. F35s and drones will do the rest. For all the Zionist propaganda, there's absolutely no evidence Iran wanted to weaponise Uranium and every evidence that they wanted to cooperate with the West in return for sanctions relief, as they did in 2015 with the JCPOA.
The question is can Iran make it painful enough for the US by causing chaos in the straits of Hormuz and damaging oil and gas infrastructure that Trump loses interest and declares victory before he imposes regime change, which is what Netanyahu really wants.
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Literally nobody would care to mess with Iran if they hadn't been funding radical militias all over the middle east.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]"Radical militias" you mean groups that opposed Zionist colonialsm. If Israel didn't exist these militias wouldn't either.
This is Western imperial propaganda to obfuscate the fundamentally anti colonial nature of Hamas and Hezbollah by labelling them as Islamic terrorists.
The real islamic extremists like Al Qaeda and ISIS were in fact sponsored by the CIA.
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I believe ALL of the following;
- Iran should not have nuclear weapons
- Israel should not have nuclear weapons
- Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
- Israel should not genocide
- Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
- Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
- Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.
My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.
My exact thoughts
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Germany was miles off, they lost the war before the first bomb was dropped, 7th May vs. 6th August. Its impossible for them to be both behind the Allied effort to make a nuclear bomb (so would have not been read to drop one until after 6th August) and still make one after they surrendered.
The Allies very much lied to the scientists about how far along the Germans were to guilt them into making one against objections raised at the time.
Now if those defecting Nazis who joined NASA and the like post war would have instead been used to replace objecting Allied scientists in the nuclear program, thats a real possibility.
There's no real way of knowing what would have happened, but knowledge is eventually gained. Somebody would have developed nukes even if it tool a lot longer and we'd end up being in a similar situation eventually.
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Israel is the principal source of regional instability and terror and everyone and his dog knows this.
The kowtowing to Trump and his Zionist sponsors by the client states of the US Empire is an insult to objective reality.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Two things (countries) can be bad at the same time
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I believe ALL of the following;
- Iran should not have nuclear weapons
- Israel should not have nuclear weapons
- Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
- Israel should not genocide
- Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
- Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
- Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.
My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.
Exactly. This is not a competition, we don’t have to cheer for either side. Horrible things are happening
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Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.
The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.
"Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.
They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."
“We will vaporize every living thing on the face of the earth in order to ensure that the threat of Iran possibly maybe but probably not having a nuclear weapon will be neutralized!”
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I believe ALL of the following;
- Iran should not have nuclear weapons
- Israel should not have nuclear weapons
- Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
- Israel should not genocide
- Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
- Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
- Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.
My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.
Damn, that's the most reasonable take I've heard all year. Kudos
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I’m not defending anyone here, but Iran has made it very clear they want to use one
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Literally no? Where did you get that from? There is no country (other than the US, 80 years ago) who have made it clear they want to use one
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Please don't make Iran out to be some sort of victim in all this. What Israel is doing is wrong, but Iran has funded a lot of terrorists throughout the years, and execute people in medival ways for holding hands with the "wrong" person.
The iranian government is pure fucking evil and deserves to die horrible deaths for what they instigate and fund around the world and in their local area.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This is Western imperial propaganda to obfuscate the fundamentally anti colonial nature of Hamas and Hezbollah by labelling them as Islamic terrorists.
The real islamic extremists like Al Qaeda and ISIS were in fact sponsored by the CIA.
I'm so sick of Americans with no clue about the region coming up with Hasbara inserted talking points about Iran. As someone who.lived through the lies on Iraq's WMDs , which was also cheered by Netanyahu, it is depressing deja vu.
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Literally no? Where did you get that from? There is no country (other than the US, 80 years ago) who have made it clear they want to use one
North Korea enters the chat
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https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/09/archives/student-designs-2000-atom-bomb.html
University physics student designed an atomic bomb to prove that nearly anyone with information now publicly available could do the same thing.
The student, John A. Phillips, a 21‐year‐old senior, using information obtained from unclassified sources, has prepared a 34‐page report said to contain plans for a crude plutonium device weighing 125 pounds and allegedly carrying a charge one‐third as powerful as the one detonated over Hiroshima in World War II.
“The point was to show,” he said, “that any undergraduate with a physics background can do it, and therefore that it is reasonable to assume that terrorists could do it, too.”
Mr. Phillips, who took four months for research and to complete his plans, did not build his bomb, and scientists familiar with his work have refused to evaluate the plans.
But the New Haven student, whose father is a professor of mechanical engineering at Yale, contends that his academic advisers have assured him that the device is “workable.”
By the time Mr. Phillips completed his plans, he had concluded that “billions of dollars and years of research are no longer required for the design and construction of a fission bomb,” but that “fanatical dedication to the goal and scientific know‐how are.”
Mr. Phillips said yesterday while outlining his plans for the bomb, which he contends could be built for $2,000, that he could have designed a more extensive one but that he had limited himself “to the crudest, cheapest and simplest device.”
“Any other physics major could do this better,” Mr. Phillips asserted. “It was just luck that I got on the right track. I'm really one of the poorest students in the physics department.”
While i am sure his comments on it costing $2,000 ($11,300 today) are broadly exaggerating, the key point remains. The information needed is really not the obstacle in the process of acquiring a nuclear bomb.
That is a wild story and fucking terrifying.
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I believe ALL of the following;
- Iran should not have nuclear weapons
- Israel should not have nuclear weapons
- Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
- Israel should not genocide
- Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
- Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
- Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.
My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.
This is the nature of modern day proxy conflicts. Both actors can continue easily but the "battlefield" like Gaza and South Lebanon are the ones that lose.
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North Korea enters the chat
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I left Korea recently after living there for 3 years. Idk what Fox News and CNN have going on, but no, North Korea is not threatening to nuke anyone. They use nukes as a "don't invade me", same as every other country
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That is a wild story and fucking terrifying.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Another fun read:
Radioactive Boy Scout -
Please don't make Iran out to be some sort of victim in all this. What Israel is doing is wrong, but Iran has funded a lot of terrorists throughout the years, and execute people in medival ways for holding hands with the "wrong" person.
The iranian government is pure fucking evil and deserves to die horrible deaths for what they instigate and fund around the world and in their local area.
It's a deep sarcasm that Western oil companies destabilized the Iranian monarchy, that * shockingly* wanted a piece of the pie in such a way it paved the way for islamist extremists to gain power.
Ian used to be pretty liberal and western minded, however westen meddling caused this extreme government.
But God forbid they get the means to (to use the Israeli turn off phrase) 'defend' itself, that would be horrendous.
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It's a deep sarcasm that Western oil companies destabilized the Iranian monarchy, that * shockingly* wanted a piece of the pie in such a way it paved the way for islamist extremists to gain power.
Ian used to be pretty liberal and western minded, however westen meddling caused this extreme government.
But God forbid they get the means to (to use the Israeli turn off phrase) 'defend' itself, that would be horrendous.
Yes, yes, we all know Iran used to be liberal a very long time ago.
That ship has sailed, and the current regime isn't great, to say the very least.
Nuclear bombs would not be used to defend Iran. They would be used to defend Khamenei. In the same way that nukes are for defending that shit stain in Israel and not Israel.
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Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.
The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.
"Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.
They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."
China, India, and Pakistan once again proving that having nukes does actually matter because you can't be arbitrarily shoved around around by the only other nuclear powers.
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I believe ALL of the following;
- Iran should not have nuclear weapons
- Israel should not have nuclear weapons
- Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
- Israel should not genocide
- Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
- Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
- Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.
My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.
Iran is answering for their fuckery
