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G7 leaders: ‘Iran can never have a nuclear weapon’

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  • M [email protected]

    This is Western imperial propaganda to obfuscate the fundamentally anti colonial nature of Hamas and Hezbollah by labelling them as Islamic terrorists.

    The real islamic extremists like Al Qaeda and ISIS were in fact sponsored by the CIA.

    I'm so sick of Americans with no clue about the region coming up with Hasbara inserted talking points about Iran. As someone who.lived through the lies on Iraq's WMDs , which was also cheered by Netanyahu, it is depressing deja vu.

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    What evidence do you have that presents hezbollah and hamas as being anti-imperialist?

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    • V [email protected]

      “We will do anything to maintain the status quo, up to and including genocidal ethnosupremacy”!

      I am honestly so revolted.

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      I'm curious to see what Iran would have become in the next 5 years had this shit not occurred. It had the potential of becoming another regime or possibly a democracy again. Hard to say where it was going.

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      • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

        I believe ALL of the following;

        • Iran should not have nuclear weapons
        • Israel should not have nuclear weapons
        • Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
        • Israel should not genocide
        • Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
        • Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
        • Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.

        My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.

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        I'd add:

        • Hamas needs to deleted from the face of earth

        And all that basically describes the opinion of 90% of the population just that vocal minorities are very vocal.

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        • F [email protected]

          Ukraine had nukes and gave them up. They were invaded.

          Iraq gave up their WMD program after the first Gulf War. They were invaded again.

          Iran definitely had a nuclear program, but doesn't appear to be pursuing it anymore. They're getting attacked and quite possibly will get invaded.

          South Africa had a nuclear program and gave it up. Left alone.

          The Great Powers, particularly the United States but also Russia, have shown that your country should just keep going once you start. Chances are, you'll get invaded, anyway.

          This is not the way towards anti-proliferation.

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          South Africa had a nuclear program and gave it up. Left alone.

          How do nukes help South Africa? They don't have rockets. What do they threaten to bomb that is a deterrent?

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          • P [email protected]

            Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror.

            Ok does someone want to catch me up on this opinion shared by world leaders but quite literally no one else?

            Like yes, Iran is a terrible authoritarian state that is very dangerous. But so is Saudi Arabia?!

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            Iran is literally funding all terrorist organizations in the region and even beyond that directly support Ruzies 🙄

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            • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

              "Iran is two weeks away from nuclear capability" - Netanyahu: 2012, 2015, 2018, 2023, 2025

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              He started a lot earlier than 2012

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              • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                Religious zealots can't be allowed to have nukes. You have to at least masquerade as a well-adjusted nation while you develop the nukes and slowly massage your zealots into positions of power over a few decades. Those are the rules.

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                • V [email protected]

                  What evidence do you have that presents hezbollah and hamas as being anti-imperialist?

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                  The evidence is that Israel is a settler colony established and supported by the Western colonial powers.

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                  • V [email protected]

                    The status quo is Western dominance and power projection.

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                    #78

                    Not exactly. West didn't care too much about other non-western countries having nukes. Two nations who have nukes borderline almost started a war in Asia (Pakistan and India). Iran is a special case, just like North Korea is. Unlike others, the two I mentioned have essentially declared themselves as the enemies of the west, so naturally west wants to keep them away from such destructive weapons

                    EDIT: Third one would be Russia, but there was already conflicts and a long standoff. The Russia has made it clear they can invade everyone but no one can invade them. Coincidentally, same could be said for USA.

                    Just my two cents, from some philosophing east european slav here.

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                    • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                      Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                      The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                      "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                      They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                      Probably best for all of us if nobody can ever have nuclear weapons, but what do i know..

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                      • M [email protected]

                        They're out of time. US B52s and B2s will obliterate what's left of their nuclear facilities. F35s and drones will do the rest. For all the Zionist propaganda, there's absolutely no evidence Iran wanted to weaponise Uranium and every evidence that they wanted to cooperate with the West in return for sanctions relief, as they did in 2015 with the JCPOA.

                        The question is can Iran make it painful enough for the US by causing chaos in the straits of Hormuz and damaging oil and gas infrastructure that Trump loses interest and declares victory before he imposes regime change, which is what Netanyahu really wants.

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                        TACO TACO 🙂

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                        • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                          Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                          The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                          "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                          They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                          I'm just surprised squeaky tank birthday pissboy didn't elbow his way to the center of this photo like he used to do during his first term. He must be tired from being old as fuck.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            South Africa had a nuclear program and gave it up. Left alone.

                            How do nukes help South Africa? They don't have rockets. What do they threaten to bomb that is a deterrent?

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                            Nukes can be dropped from planes too.

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                            • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                              I believe ALL of the following;

                              • Iran should not have nuclear weapons
                              • Israel should not have nuclear weapons
                              • Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
                              • Israel should not genocide
                              • Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
                              • Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
                              • Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.

                              My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.

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                              Well that's a nice enough list in a vacuum, but what does that actually mean she the real world? Israel already has nukes, Iran won't survive without them, Palestinians are going to fight back against the fascists trying to exterminate them - with or without Irans prompting - and sympathetic countries like Iran are going to try and aid that struggle.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                I'd add:

                                • Hamas needs to deleted from the face of earth

                                And all that basically describes the opinion of 90% of the population just that vocal minorities are very vocal.

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                                90 percent of the western population. The rest of the world is more sympathetic to the militant struggle against imperial genocide.

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  Please don't make Iran out to be some sort of victim in all this. What Israel is doing is wrong, but Iran has funded a lot of terrorists throughout the years, and execute people in medival ways for holding hands with the "wrong" person.

                                  The iranian government is pure fucking evil and deserves to die horrible deaths for what they instigate and fund around the world and in their local area.

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                                  The Iranian government is strictly less evil than every government that has supported Israels genocide, which is basically all of the West, including, for example, Ukraine. Are you going to b say "please don't make Ukraine out as some victim in all this, they're pure evil and deserve to die horrible deaths"? Will you say that the EU governments do for what they instigate and fund around the world?

                                  Or are you just a white supremacist?

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                                  • V [email protected]

                                    Yes, yes, we all know Iran used to be liberal a very long time ago.

                                    That ship has sailed, and the current regime isn't great, to say the very least.

                                    Nuclear bombs would not be used to defend Iran. They would be used to defend Khamenei. In the same way that nukes are for defending that shit stain in Israel and not Israel.

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                                    Iran is still more liberal than any western country that supports Israel.

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                                    • V [email protected]

                                      What evidence do you have that presents hezbollah and hamas as being anti-imperialist?

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                                      The fact that their whole existence has been fighting against imperialism

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                                        Two things (countries) can be bad at the same time

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                                        Sounds like something a tankie would say about Ukraine and Russia

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          The Germans would have beat us to the bomb and used it and we would all be Nazis.

                                          What if the bomb just wasn’t possible? WWII would have lasted a lot longer, but the allies were going to win eventually at that point. There would not have been a Cold War (at least not one influenced by an arms race)

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                                          The Germans were literally defeated before the bomb was finished! Jesus Christ, how bad is education these days.

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