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  • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

    Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

    The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

    "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

    They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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    Probably best for all of us if nobody can ever have nuclear weapons, but what do i know..

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    • M [email protected]

      They're out of time. US B52s and B2s will obliterate what's left of their nuclear facilities. F35s and drones will do the rest. For all the Zionist propaganda, there's absolutely no evidence Iran wanted to weaponise Uranium and every evidence that they wanted to cooperate with the West in return for sanctions relief, as they did in 2015 with the JCPOA.

      The question is can Iran make it painful enough for the US by causing chaos in the straits of Hormuz and damaging oil and gas infrastructure that Trump loses interest and declares victory before he imposes regime change, which is what Netanyahu really wants.

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      TACO TACO 🙂

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      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

        The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

        "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

        They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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        I'm just surprised squeaky tank birthday pissboy didn't elbow his way to the center of this photo like he used to do during his first term. He must be tired from being old as fuck.

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        • P [email protected]

          South Africa had a nuclear program and gave it up. Left alone.

          How do nukes help South Africa? They don't have rockets. What do they threaten to bomb that is a deterrent?

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          Nukes can be dropped from planes too.

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          • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

            I believe ALL of the following;

            • Iran should not have nuclear weapons
            • Israel should not have nuclear weapons
            • Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
            • Israel should not genocide
            • Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
            • Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
            • Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.

            My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.

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            Well that's a nice enough list in a vacuum, but what does that actually mean she the real world? Israel already has nukes, Iran won't survive without them, Palestinians are going to fight back against the fascists trying to exterminate them - with or without Irans prompting - and sympathetic countries like Iran are going to try and aid that struggle.

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            • D [email protected]

              I'd add:

              • Hamas needs to deleted from the face of earth

              And all that basically describes the opinion of 90% of the population just that vocal minorities are very vocal.

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              90 percent of the western population. The rest of the world is more sympathetic to the militant struggle against imperial genocide.

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              • M [email protected]

                Please don't make Iran out to be some sort of victim in all this. What Israel is doing is wrong, but Iran has funded a lot of terrorists throughout the years, and execute people in medival ways for holding hands with the "wrong" person.

                The iranian government is pure fucking evil and deserves to die horrible deaths for what they instigate and fund around the world and in their local area.

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                The Iranian government is strictly less evil than every government that has supported Israels genocide, which is basically all of the West, including, for example, Ukraine. Are you going to b say "please don't make Ukraine out as some victim in all this, they're pure evil and deserve to die horrible deaths"? Will you say that the EU governments do for what they instigate and fund around the world?

                Or are you just a white supremacist?

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                  Yes, yes, we all know Iran used to be liberal a very long time ago.

                  That ship has sailed, and the current regime isn't great, to say the very least.

                  Nuclear bombs would not be used to defend Iran. They would be used to defend Khamenei. In the same way that nukes are for defending that shit stain in Israel and not Israel.

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                  Iran is still more liberal than any western country that supports Israel.

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                    What evidence do you have that presents hezbollah and hamas as being anti-imperialist?

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                    The fact that their whole existence has been fighting against imperialism

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                    • S [email protected]

                      Two things (countries) can be bad at the same time

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                      Sounds like something a tankie would say about Ukraine and Russia

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                      • D [email protected]

                        The Germans would have beat us to the bomb and used it and we would all be Nazis.

                        What if the bomb just wasn’t possible? WWII would have lasted a lot longer, but the allies were going to win eventually at that point. There would not have been a Cold War (at least not one influenced by an arms race)

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                        The Germans were literally defeated before the bomb was finished! Jesus Christ, how bad is education these days.

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                          Just asking. The Nazis we’re pretty cartoonish.

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                          They kind of both maxed out the scale

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                          • hubi@feddit.orgH [email protected]

                            Literally nobody would care to mess with Iran if they hadn't been funding radical militias all over the middle east.

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                            Iran was being fucked with long long before the first militia was funded

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                            • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                              Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                              The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                              "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                              They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                              How else can the most advanced first-world nations keep exploiting the Middleeast?

                              With Netynyahu, we can change the government of any nation in the middleast. We just tell him to make a presentation that they're bad and have big weapons!

                              Guys please understand we, the US, UK, Germany, and rest of G7 first-world nations, reaally need to assassinate forign leaders and destory and kill the people of any nation that opposes the existance of a genocidal ethnostate aparthied .... because, the few Zionists who pay our salaries will not have a country where they can kill, evict, colonize, assassinate anyone who is not from their chosen race.
                              Then we will have to give these brown people democracy, and their own governments?!!

                              If we did not make the middleast into dictatorships that work with our genocidal ethostate only, then they will not sell us cheap oil and will not have to couple all their trades, currencies and inflations against US dollar.
                              Omg. imagine if they were then allowed to manufacture their own weapons and not buy trillions worth of military equipments and defense contracts from us? omg.. our 9999 military bases there? who will pay for them?

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                                Here's the short version (yes, this is incomplete because even writing this is a small essay. If somebody feels like adding context please do so), to answer your question on the background to their statement & position. The position is fairly common outside Lemmy at least.

                                History, history, history... (very long story)

                                2022: Israel was working on normalizing relations with the Arab countries. Things are relatively peaceful in the ME, albeit pretty shit for Arabs in Gaza & WB, not a warzone though. This succeeding would have been a threat to the Iranian network of terrorist organizations (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, groups in Syria such as the IRGC).

                                Iran pushes forth October 7 to reignite tensions, training Hamas operatives & such.

                                Hamas attacks Israel on Oct. 7 kicking off the war - other Iranian proxy groups soon join in. Initially there is no direct conflict between Israel & Iran.

                                2024 april - IDF strikes the Iranian consulate in Syria to take senior officers in the Hezbollah chain of command and assassinates several others. Iran retaliates with missiles against with strikes against Israel proper.

                                After that, tit for tat strikes in increasing magnitude and escalations which have culminated in the current situation. No, it was not surprising, this conflict was always fundamentally between Israel & Iran and has been slowly escalating for a long time.

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                                Iran pushes forth October 7 to reignite tensions, training Hamas operatives & such.

                                I love unfounded conspiracy theories

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  I’m not defending anyone here, but Iran has made it very clear they want to use one

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                                  They have done the exact opposite

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                                  • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                    Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

                                    The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

                                    "Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

                                    They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

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                                    "Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,”

                                    I guess we all just have to pretend Israel doesn't exist?

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      Please don't make Iran out to be some sort of victim in all this. What Israel is doing is wrong, but Iran has funded a lot of terrorists throughout the years, and execute people in medival ways for holding hands with the "wrong" person.

                                      The iranian government is pure fucking evil and deserves to die horrible deaths for what they instigate and fund around the world and in their local area.

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                                      Ok, which country is actively committing genocide?

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        Knowledge is eventually gained, someone would have built practical devices relating to nuclear fission, whether that was a bomb or a reactor.

                                        Nazi Germany would not have done that in any time frame relevant to WWII. They specifically rejected aspects of atomic/quantum theory because they were tainted by "jewish science" which unknowingly set them back decades and sent them in the wrong direction. As much as they were obsessed with super weapons, they were very unscientific in their R&D.

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                                        They specifically rejected aspects of atomic/quantum theory because they were tainted by "jewish science" which unknowingly set them back decades and sent them in the wrong direction.

                                        This shit sounds so familiar...

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                                        • I [email protected]

                                          Here's the short version (yes, this is incomplete because even writing this is a small essay. If somebody feels like adding context please do so), to answer your question on the background to their statement & position. The position is fairly common outside Lemmy at least.

                                          History, history, history... (very long story)

                                          2022: Israel was working on normalizing relations with the Arab countries. Things are relatively peaceful in the ME, albeit pretty shit for Arabs in Gaza & WB, not a warzone though. This succeeding would have been a threat to the Iranian network of terrorist organizations (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, groups in Syria such as the IRGC).

                                          Iran pushes forth October 7 to reignite tensions, training Hamas operatives & such.

                                          Hamas attacks Israel on Oct. 7 kicking off the war - other Iranian proxy groups soon join in. Initially there is no direct conflict between Israel & Iran.

                                          2024 april - IDF strikes the Iranian consulate in Syria to take senior officers in the Hezbollah chain of command and assassinates several others. Iran retaliates with missiles against with strikes against Israel proper.

                                          After that, tit for tat strikes in increasing magnitude and escalations which have culminated in the current situation. No, it was not surprising, this conflict was always fundamentally between Israel & Iran and has been slowly escalating for a long time.

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                                          History, history, history... (very long story)

                                          Starts in 2022

                                          My dude...

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