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Schooled by Trump, Americans are learning to dislike their allies

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    https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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      Republican americans are in fact cosplaying the movie idiocracy but with a nazi germany crossover.

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        Republican americans are in fact cosplaying the movie idiocracy but with a nazi germany crossover.

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        No, and I start to hate Idiocracy-comparisons. Remember the one crucial thing they did in the movie: listen to the one person most able to solve their problem and then make him president, not put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him.

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          No, and I start to hate Idiocracy-comparisons. Remember the one crucial thing they did in the movie: listen to the one person most able to solve their problem and then make him president, not put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him.

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          That's right. What the US is doing is pretty much just cosplaying Nazi Germany. The Nazis weren't evil geniuses, they were pretty stupid and disorganised (a hallmark of every fascist regime is everlasting internal rivalry for more influence) and put their idiotic little ideology and personality cult above all else (for example, deportation trains to the death camps had precedence over much needed military logistics, even very late into WW2, Nazi big wigs regularly engaged in disastrous micromanagement because they could), inevitably leading to picking a fight with pretty much the entire rest of the world and predictably losing that. The only thing the Nazis were clever with was propaganda. See any similarities already?

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            https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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            Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.

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              https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                The fact that they can change their opinion on their close friends based upon what the president says is kind of pathetic. They call everyone else sheeple and brainwashed as they believe everything he says without question. The definition of a cult.

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                  No, and I start to hate Idiocracy-comparisons. Remember the one crucial thing they did in the movie: listen to the one person most able to solve their problem and then make him president, not put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him.

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                  Well, they did put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him, but the idiot wasn't malicious.

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                    Well, they did put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him, but the idiot wasn't malicious.

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                    That supposed idiot was at the time the smartest living person. Trump is all but that.

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                      Americans Republicans. FIFY

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                        It's mostly the republicans though isn't it? I mean in general I see the actions of the USA as a result of the choices made by the whole US population but in this, they are clearly different

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                          It's mostly the republicans though isn't it? I mean in general I see the actions of the USA as a result of the choices made by the whole US population but in this, they are clearly different

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                          And even then far from all of them.

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                            It's mostly the republicans though isn't it? I mean in general I see the actions of the USA as a result of the choices made by the whole US population but in this, they are clearly different

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                            Mostly Republicans but a much smaller trend can be seen among Democrats too.

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                              Sums it up perfectly

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                                It‘s almost as if other nations prefer you to be tolerant and welcoming towards them. You know, the very basics of diplomacy.

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                                  No, and I start to hate Idiocracy-comparisons. Remember the one crucial thing they did in the movie: listen to the one person most able to solve their problem and then make him president, not put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him.

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                                  The US is most similar to the 2030s-early 2050s US in the Chinese-written White or Black (Chinese variant of Brave New World).

                                  • An alien shows up, and an international team sent to investigate kill it by accident.
                                  • A bunch of aliens show up a few years later, but they're content to float in the sky.
                                  • After deciphering their language, humanity discovers that the aliens seek asylum on Earth, and they claim that the human race is doomed unless humanity does some immediate course correction.
                                  • "Lol, no."
                                  • Meanwhile, a group of religious MAGA Republicans (Trump is presumably dead at this point) form a religion devoting to worshiping the aliens, believing that they're angels sent by God.
                                  • The aliens' predictions come to pass. The collapsed US is then taken over by the alien supporting religious organization in the late 2060s-2070s.
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                                    It‘s almost as if other nations prefer you to be tolerant and welcoming towards them. You know, the very basics of diplomacy.

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                                    the very basics of diplomacy.

                                    The very basics of human decency

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                                      Oh look, you can physically see the Democrat shift to the right on the chart.

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                                        Mostly Republicans but a much smaller trend can be seen among Democrats too.

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                                        This is fair though. I might even agree that this whole situation has indeed uncovered areas where the USA could be doing some things better.

                                        Importing more than you export to a country is not financially ideal but solving it with tarrifs or blaming the other part that they dont buy more from you is not the way to correct this.

                                        Their perspective is from the other side of the situation though and the information is distributes by a media that seems to have an (not so secret) agenda

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                                          Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.

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                                          We thank the Big Brother for the increase in the chocolate ration!

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