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  • K [email protected]

    Maybe dont tell people they are engaging in conspiracy theory and strawman about elders of zion, whatever that is, if you are inpacable of understanding any response. And I dont completely beleive you when you say you dont understand.

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    Man, you are the problem. Try to answer understandable next time.

    Blubbering about jewish bankers controlling the state is antisemitic conspiracy bullshit 101.

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      The government has "strongly condemned" chants at Glastonbury Festival from rap punk duo Bob Vylan calling for "death" to the Israeli military and broadcast live on the BBC.

      Rapper Bobby Vylan led chants of "free, free Palestine" and "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]" during their set, which came just before Belfast rap trio Kneecap.

      A BBC spokesperson said some of the comments were "deeply offensive", adding it had issued a warning on screen about "very strong and discriminatory language". The set will not be available to rewatch on BBC iPlayer.

      Police said they were reviewing videos of comments made by Bob Vylan and Kneecap to decide whether any offences had been committed.

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      For some balance: the UK hate speech laws despite what the daily mail push have been applied relatively evenly with the intent of preventing violence which has been a problem in the UK in several cases where innocents were unfairly targeted then attacked.

      I'm not really one way or the other regarding the BBC decision, I can see it both ways and the footage will be out there regardless of their choice. I personally support the message being free speech and for the public to make their judgement.

      Re the police reviewing it. This can often happen with high profile stuff even if it's to officially class it as free speech, so no one can say it was ignored and the were discriminated against. However if the police find it to be anything other than free speech based on current events, I would find that highly concerning.
      He didn't say death to Jews, or Israel, it was specific to the IDF.

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      • blackris@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

        Man, you are the problem. Try to answer understandable next time.

        Blubbering about jewish bankers controlling the state is antisemitic conspiracy bullshit 101.

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        #169

        I never said anything about jewish bankers controlling a state. Nobody else did either. So you accuse me of antisemitism, play dumb when you get your arse rhetorically handed to you, you then strawman, close with another antisemitism accusation, and then walk away. Thats not a very convincing performance. Next time maybe dont start throwing around your "antisemitism" libel in the first place.

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          The government has "strongly condemned" chants at Glastonbury Festival from rap punk duo Bob Vylan calling for "death" to the Israeli military and broadcast live on the BBC.

          Rapper Bobby Vylan led chants of "free, free Palestine" and "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]" during their set, which came just before Belfast rap trio Kneecap.

          A BBC spokesperson said some of the comments were "deeply offensive", adding it had issued a warning on screen about "very strong and discriminatory language". The set will not be available to rewatch on BBC iPlayer.

          Police said they were reviewing videos of comments made by Bob Vylan and Kneecap to decide whether any offences had been committed.

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          You can come a complaint of inaccuracy on the BBC website. If you have the time to do so, do so. Stating they were antisemitic is slander and misinformed.

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          • K [email protected]

            I never said anything about jewish bankers controlling a state. Nobody else did either. So you accuse me of antisemitism, play dumb when you get your arse rhetorically handed to you, you then strawman, close with another antisemitism accusation, and then walk away. Thats not a very convincing performance. Next time maybe dont start throwing around your "antisemitism" libel in the first place.

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            I accuse you of nothing. I accused the user WanderingThoughts of that, because they just did exactly that in their now deleted comment. You are just chiming in here, post walls of text for whatever reason and make it about you.

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            • blackris@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

              I accuse you of nothing. I accused the user WanderingThoughts of that, because they just did exactly that in their now deleted comment. You are just chiming in here, post walls of text for whatever reason and make it about you.

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              #172

              I see, well respond to the right person next time so you dont waste both our time.

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                I see, well respond to the right person next time so you dont waste both our time.

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                Unbelievable. You made a fucking mistake and still claim I am the problem. You don't make it easy for people to like you, right?

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                • dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                  Are you excusing islamist terrorism, rape and beheadings?

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                  As bad as 10/7 was, the unfounded accusations of systemic rape and beheadings have been de-bunked. Don't go down the road of repeating propaganda or your comments will be removed.

                  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-2-debunked-accounts-of-sexual-violence-on-oct-7-fueled-a-global-dispute-over-israel-hamas-war

                  https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/04/03/40-beheaded-babies-the-itinerary-of-a-rumor-at-the-heart-of-the-information-battle-between-israel-and-hamas_6667274_8.html

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                  • blackris@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

                    Unbelievable. You made a fucking mistake and still claim I am the problem. You don't make it easy for people to like you, right?

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                    #175

                    Unbeleiveable

                    ?
                    read the comment train. You replied to me and then you act like a dementia patient after calling me an antisemite twice and failing to back it up. Like I said, dont insult people if you are too incapable of readnig and replying to comments, or too dishonest to make your point without failing to land and then resorting to ad-homs. I dont know what else to tell you, but all the points I made stand, and your throwing around "anti semitism like its a word that means anything after you lot spend the last several years making it mean nothing show us all who you are and what you are doing here. Get bent.

                    at best you replied with nastiness to the wrong comment.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      Maybe? Isreal would still have the better weapon platforms then its regional neighbors and i think will more likely use a nuke in a situation like that if it feels desperate enough.

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                      If they use a nuke then they are done.

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                        If they use a nuke then they are done.

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                        Why would you think that republicans would not continue their support of them?

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                        • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                          As bad as 10/7 was, the unfounded accusations of systemic rape and beheadings have been de-bunked. Don't go down the road of repeating propaganda or your comments will be removed.

                          https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-2-debunked-accounts-of-sexual-violence-on-oct-7-fueled-a-global-dispute-over-israel-hamas-war

                          https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/04/03/40-beheaded-babies-the-itinerary-of-a-rumor-at-the-heart-of-the-information-battle-between-israel-and-hamas_6667274_8.html

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                          #178

                          Are you kidding me? Why has my comment been removed?

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                          • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                            As bad as 10/7 was, the unfounded accusations of systemic rape and beheadings have been de-bunked. Don't go down the road of repeating propaganda or your comments will be removed.

                            https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-2-debunked-accounts-of-sexual-violence-on-oct-7-fueled-a-global-dispute-over-israel-hamas-war

                            https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/04/03/40-beheaded-babies-the-itinerary-of-a-rumor-at-the-heart-of-the-information-battle-between-israel-and-hamas_6667274_8.html

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                            #179

                            There is proof that Hamas raped people on October 7th:
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_in_the_October_7_attacks

                            There is also reports about beheadings and I'm not talking about the Hamas baby beheading hoax:

                            "including beheading victims"
                            https://www.timesofisrael.com/kill-behead-rape-interrogated-hamas-members-detail-atrocities-against-civilians/

                            "There were also beheadings and cases of dismemberment."
                            https://archive.ph/20231220010209/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-04/ty-article-magazine/.premium/hamas-committed-documented-atrocities-but-a-few-false-stories-feed-the-deniers/0000018c-34f3-da74-afce-b5fbe24f0000#selection-2791.121-2791.175

                            "to behead people"
                            https://themedialine.org/top-stories/horrific-footage-of-hamas-atrocities-revealed-by-idf-shakes-global-media/

                            "Soldiers beheaded."
                            https://abcnews.go.com/International/blinken-meets-hamas-attack-survivors-pledges-us-support/story?id=103925374

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                            • dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                              Are you excusing islamist terrorism, rape and beheadings?

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                              My comment was deleted because of "Israeli propaganda". I don't know how asking whether someone excused Islamist terrorism, rape and beheadings is Israeli propaganda. This is arbitrary.

                              There is proof that Hamas raped people on October 7th:
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_in_the_October_7_attacks

                              There is also reports about beheadings and I'm not talking about the Hamas baby beheading hoax:

                              "including beheading victims"
                              https://www.timesofisrael.com/kill-behead-rape-interrogated-hamas-members-detail-atrocities-against-civilians/

                              "There were also beheadings and cases of dismemberment."
                              https://archive.ph/20231220010209/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-04/ty-article-magazine/.premium/hamas-committed-documented-atrocities-but-a-few-false-stories-feed-the-deniers/0000018c-34f3-da74-afce-b5fbe24f0000#selection-2791.121-2791.175

                              "to behead people"
                              https://themedialine.org/top-stories/horrific-footage-of-hamas-atrocities-revealed-by-idf-shakes-global-media/

                              "Soldiers beheaded."
                              https://abcnews.go.com/International/blinken-meets-hamas-attack-survivors-pledges-us-support/story?id=103925374

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                              • dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                                My comment was deleted because of "Israeli propaganda". I don't know how asking whether someone excused Islamist terrorism, rape and beheadings is Israeli propaganda. This is arbitrary.

                                There is proof that Hamas raped people on October 7th:
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_in_the_October_7_attacks

                                There is also reports about beheadings and I'm not talking about the Hamas baby beheading hoax:

                                "including beheading victims"
                                https://www.timesofisrael.com/kill-behead-rape-interrogated-hamas-members-detail-atrocities-against-civilians/

                                "There were also beheadings and cases of dismemberment."
                                https://archive.ph/20231220010209/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-04/ty-article-magazine/.premium/hamas-committed-documented-atrocities-but-a-few-false-stories-feed-the-deniers/0000018c-34f3-da74-afce-b5fbe24f0000#selection-2791.121-2791.175

                                "to behead people"
                                https://themedialine.org/top-stories/horrific-footage-of-hamas-atrocities-revealed-by-idf-shakes-global-media/

                                "Soldiers beheaded."
                                https://abcnews.go.com/International/blinken-meets-hamas-attack-survivors-pledges-us-support/story?id=103925374

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                                There was no beheaded babies stop lying. What do you think happen to babies head when israel drop bomb on them?
                                https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/what-we-know-about-three-widespread-israel-hamas-war-claims/

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                                  There was no beheaded babies stop lying. What do you think happen to babies head when israel drop bomb on them?
                                  https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/what-we-know-about-three-widespread-israel-hamas-war-claims/

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                                  I’m not talking about the Hamas baby beheading hoax

                                  Reading comprehension 0/10.

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                                    The government has "strongly condemned" chants at Glastonbury Festival from rap punk duo Bob Vylan calling for "death" to the Israeli military and broadcast live on the BBC.

                                    Rapper Bobby Vylan led chants of "free, free Palestine" and "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]" during their set, which came just before Belfast rap trio Kneecap.

                                    A BBC spokesperson said some of the comments were "deeply offensive", adding it had issued a warning on screen about "very strong and discriminatory language". The set will not be available to rewatch on BBC iPlayer.

                                    Police said they were reviewing videos of comments made by Bob Vylan and Kneecap to decide whether any offences had been committed.

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                                    What "Death to IDF" looks like in real life: violence against Jews.

                                    https://www.jwire.com.au/jewish-melbournes-friday-evening-of-horro/

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                                      What "Death to IDF" looks like in real life: violence against Jews.

                                      https://www.jwire.com.au/jewish-melbournes-friday-evening-of-horro/

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                                      Death to the idf in real life is idf terrorists killed in gaza

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                                      • dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                                        I’m not talking about the Hamas baby beheading hoax

                                        Reading comprehension 0/10.

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                                        What do you think happen to babies heads when israrl throen bombs on them? Death death to the IDF

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                                        • dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                                          Are you kidding me? Why has my comment been removed?

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                                          Because you continue pushing Israeli lies about the genocide. You are now banned as well.

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