Government condemns Glastonbury chants aired live on BBC
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If Zionists had any real leverage they could use to control states Spain and Ireland (and to a lesser extent France under Macron) wouldn't be outspoken advocates for Palestinian rights. The guilt trip is definitely part of it, but also don't underestimate the scale or pervasiveness of Israeli propaganda. I mean, unless you're exceptionally educated on Palestinian history at least half the things you believe about the so-called conflict are probably Israeli propaganda., irrespective of what you feel about Israel. I hate to admit it, but they are good at this stuff. Their major Western ally status gained during the Cold War is also not helping.
If Zionists had any real leverage they could use to control states Spain and Ireland (and to a lesser extent France under Macron) wouldn't be outspoken advocates for Palestinian rights
I'm not sure what has given Spain their perspective but at least in Ireland there is no amount of propaganda you could throw at us to change public perception here, largely on a moral ground, but we also have that sweet, sweet history of oppression. We were all horrified on October 6th but there's no justification for the current genocide.
Really fucking tired of antisemitism bring bandied about as the reason for our support too. Children are being shot in the street, losing limbs and being starved as a weapon of war FFS. Antisemitism is a real and nasty thing and the word is being cheapened by the hour.
Very happy to have a larger country along for the ride with us. History is on our side.
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Hey col, let's sprinkle in some real antisemitism. Unbelievable.
There is something going on though right?
There absolutely must be Zionist Jews in influential positions in American and probably the UK who have the interest of Israel above the interest of their country. There is loads of funding for pro Israel groups.
The whole antisemitic propaganda thrown at Labour is real questionable.
Pro Israel groups have been caught rewriting history on Wikipedia.
Without being able to talk about it how do we know what's real and what's a conspiracy?
Like just talking about things that are true isn't wrong. The whole banking system is too much. But what is right?
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Death to the idf
Wonder what happened here
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Wonder what happened here
I said death to the idf
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The most obvious genocide since the holocust. You don't need to know history to know what israel does now right now is terrible
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These idiots also chanted "up Hamas, up Hezbollah". How stupid do you habe to be to publicly support terrorism? This is not helping the Palestinian cause.
Israel is the terrorist
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It is a resistance group that have a fair share of terrorist acts like many other resistance groups in other occupied countries. It was created in response of israrl opression during the second intifada
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I mean yes, when did I say otherwise? Israel is at fault for creating this terrible situation, and the people exploiting that situation for their own gain at the expense of Palestinians are also at fault. These two things can be true at the same time.
Hamas leaders has ton of their family killed. Look at the palestinian autority for taking advantage of occupation to their own gains
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If Zionists had any real leverage they could use to control states Spain and Ireland (and to a lesser extent France under Macron) wouldn't be outspoken advocates for Palestinian rights
I'm not sure what has given Spain their perspective but at least in Ireland there is no amount of propaganda you could throw at us to change public perception here, largely on a moral ground, but we also have that sweet, sweet history of oppression. We were all horrified on October 6th but there's no justification for the current genocide.
Really fucking tired of antisemitism bring bandied about as the reason for our support too. Children are being shot in the street, losing limbs and being starved as a weapon of war FFS. Antisemitism is a real and nasty thing and the word is being cheapened by the hour.
Very happy to have a larger country along for the ride with us. History is on our side.
wrote last edited by [email protected]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Spain
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia
The Spanish are a great bunch of lads
Fada beò an Spà inn!
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Hey col, let's sprinkle in some real antisemitism. Unbelievable.
Then better stop the genocide before antisemitism gets normalized. It will increase the longer this continues.
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Genocidal zionazis murdering tens of thousands of unarmed men women and children are more what I'd be concerned about affecting the Palestinian cause than artists trying to stand for something they believe in.
Also, Hamas is not terrorism, it's a symptom of an oppressive terrorist colonial regime wantonly subjucating a people. They're the equivalent of the rebel resistance in star wars.
Are you excusing islamist terrorism, rape and beheadings?
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Then better stop the genocide before antisemitism gets normalized. It will increase the longer this continues.
How does banking factor into the genocide in gaza, or did you just reach for whatever jewish stereotype came to mind first?
It's extremely easy to criticize Israel without being anti-Semitic and yet you failed spectacularly and have shown zero self reflection after getting correctly called out on it. Pathetic.
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I said death to the idf
I was gonna joke world would remove it but didn't think they actually would
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The government has "strongly condemned" chants at Glastonbury Festival from rap punk duo Bob Vylan calling for "death" to the Israeli military and broadcast live on the BBC.
Rapper Bobby Vylan led chants of "free, free Palestine" and "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]" during their set, which came just before Belfast rap trio Kneecap.
A BBC spokesperson said some of the comments were "deeply offensive", adding it had issued a warning on screen about "very strong and discriminatory language". The set will not be available to rewatch on BBC iPlayer.
Police said they were reviewing videos of comments made by Bob Vylan and Kneecap to decide whether any offences had been committed.
wrote last edited by [email protected]"Death to the IDF" is not what I would chant, but it's honestly mild compared to the kinds of slogans (eg. "Death to Arabs" and "Let your village burn") West-funded, West-supported, West-armed, and West-protected-from-accountability Israeli fanatics chant before committing actual fucking atrocities. Hell, it's mild compared to the Amalek rhetoric of Israeli state leadership.
Edit: why is "death to the IDF" mild compared to "death to Arabs"? You can choose to not join or to leave the IDF (it might cost you some jail time, but if that's the price for keeping one's soul, so be it). You can at the very least not self-identify with it and distance yourself from what it has become. Basically, there are many off ramps out of the IDF. There are no ramps off of existing as an Arab.
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There is something going on though right?
There absolutely must be Zionist Jews in influential positions in American and probably the UK who have the interest of Israel above the interest of their country. There is loads of funding for pro Israel groups.
The whole antisemitic propaganda thrown at Labour is real questionable.
Pro Israel groups have been caught rewriting history on Wikipedia.
Without being able to talk about it how do we know what's real and what's a conspiracy?
Like just talking about things that are true isn't wrong. The whole banking system is too much. But what is right?
Ridiculous, there is no need to invent a conspiracy. Isreal and the UK have aligned economic and military interests. There is no jewish shadow banking syndicate pulling the strings, there simply an understanding that the UK benefits from a state like Israel existing in the middle east and that if it didn't exist the UK's ability to project military force would be worse off and UK businesses would be worse off.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Spain
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia
The Spanish are a great bunch of lads
Fada beò an Spà inn!
wrote last edited by [email protected]Cheers. I'll give them a read this evening.
And yeah great bunch of lads the Spanish. Absolutely sound in general.
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How does banking factor into the genocide in gaza, or did you just reach for whatever jewish stereotype came to mind first?
It's extremely easy to criticize Israel without being anti-Semitic and yet you failed spectacularly and have shown zero self reflection after getting correctly called out on it. Pathetic.
Oh, I'm not criticizing Israel. That's a done conclusion. I'm questioning why politicians in other countries go along with this. As far as I can see, and that's clearly shown, there's very good lobbying, information campaigns and lots of money. Even the Eurovision contest was full of money and influencing. I'm assuming influence alone can't do this, certainly not after protests. That leaves money. Who has a lot of money, meaning trillions, and reason to use it as leverage? Certain banks. Of course that's forbidden to say, but that omerta thing going on is now part of the stereotype.
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Ridiculous, there is no need to invent a conspiracy. Isreal and the UK have aligned economic and military interests. There is no jewish shadow banking syndicate pulling the strings, there simply an understanding that the UK benefits from a state like Israel existing in the middle east and that if it didn't exist the UK's ability to project military force would be worse off and UK businesses would be worse off.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I didnt say there was a shadow banking industry, in fact I said the opposite.
Completely missed my point.
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The government has "strongly condemned" chants at Glastonbury Festival from rap punk duo Bob Vylan calling for "death" to the Israeli military and broadcast live on the BBC.
Rapper Bobby Vylan led chants of "free, free Palestine" and "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]" during their set, which came just before Belfast rap trio Kneecap.
A BBC spokesperson said some of the comments were "deeply offensive", adding it had issued a warning on screen about "very strong and discriminatory language". The set will not be available to rewatch on BBC iPlayer.
Police said they were reviewing videos of comments made by Bob Vylan and Kneecap to decide whether any offences had been committed.
I support it because I'm with "The People."
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Israel is the terrorist
That does not make Hamas any less of an terrorist organization.
