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  • slowmotionrunner@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

    TL;DR: she works on the speech to text AI product on Azure, which is used by Israel for some of their operations.

    Look, I understand her desire to stop fighting in Palestine, but by that logic, we should also be protesting every software and computer manufacturer.

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    Focus on the worst offenders and create pressure to stop them from being complicit in such crimes.

    See https://bdsmovement.net/bds-guidelines/bds-guide-strategic-campaigning-palestinian-rights for the way to do targeted boycotts and their impact.

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      Thank you, Lemmy. I can't find this on the technology subreddit. Reddit Is complacent.

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      Glad you could find it.

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        A Microsoft employee disrupted the company’s 50th anniversary event to protest its use of AI.

        “Shame on you,” said Microsoft employee Ibtihal Aboussad, speaking directly to Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman. “You are a war profiteer. Stop using AI for genocide. Stop using AI for genocide in our region. You have blood on your hands. All of Microsoft has blood on its hands. How dare you all celebrate when Microsoft is killing children. Shame on you all.”

        Sources at Microsoft tell The Verge that shortly after Aboussad was ushered out of Microsoft’s event, she sent an email to a number of email distribution lists that contain hundreds or thousands of Microsoft employees. Here is Aboussad’s email in full:

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        This is what happens when you read and watch hamas' war propaganda online.

        There are photos and videos of russian soldiers dying. Does that give ukraine the fault for this war?

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          I get your point. But Microsoft knows exactly who is using their cloud and why (id proof and industry), vs something for everyone to grab (LF doesnt require id proof and industry). Microsoft is knowingly serving child murderers and it knows their tech is used to do exactly that.

          You cannot ban kitchen knives because there were a mass stab, but you enforce strict background check so you dont sell rifles to school shooters.

          In other words, impossible to enforce linux ban without removing the open source aspect of it and affect good people like, but totally possible just not serve somebody commiting a genocide.

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          I mean they sell to tons of military folks I assume. I know people didn’t sign up for it but the difference between genocide and military operation is purely what side you’re on. Also where do we draw the line? Windows use? Or just ai because of the mass surveillance capabilities? I can’t see that genie going back in the bottle.

          Nothing wrong with the protest and good on them for getting the word out because the scale is crazy but we saw this same shit 20 years ago and nobody has the appetite to politically challenge the status quo so far as the intelligence community etc. and scummy use of technology.

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            This is what happens when you read and watch hamas' war propaganda online.

            There are photos and videos of russian soldiers dying. Does that give ukraine the fault for this war?

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            Children are not soilders. I don't think anyone is criticising israel for killing hamas leader or soilders, but bombing hospital, kill children, journalist, and UN shelter are not okay.

            Whether terrorist attack justify a full scale invasion is debatable, but interfering with humanitarian effort, killing children and non-combative unit is not.

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            • smackemwittadic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

              Maybe give the decision to the people who resided in this land before the Ottomans or British put the intentionally divisive borders that they'd come up with?

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              How is that a reasonable approach? How would that solve anything?

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                A Microsoft employee disrupted the company’s 50th anniversary event to protest its use of AI.

                “Shame on you,” said Microsoft employee Ibtihal Aboussad, speaking directly to Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman. “You are a war profiteer. Stop using AI for genocide. Stop using AI for genocide in our region. You have blood on your hands. All of Microsoft has blood on its hands. How dare you all celebrate when Microsoft is killing children. Shame on you all.”

                Sources at Microsoft tell The Verge that shortly after Aboussad was ushered out of Microsoft’s event, she sent an email to a number of email distribution lists that contain hundreds or thousands of Microsoft employees. Here is Aboussad’s email in full:

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                This is such a bold move.
                Takes courage to speak up from the inside, especially at an event like that.
                Whether people agree or not, the conversation about the ethics of AI and its real-world consequences needs to happen.

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                  I'm very confused. Can somebody explain how any of that makes any sense?

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                  it's a very long email. there's details of how Microsoft contracts with Israeli Defense to make AI that supports war efforts

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                    This is what happens when you read and watch hamas' war propaganda online.

                    There are photos and videos of russian soldiers dying. Does that give ukraine the fault for this war?

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                    You see an article about a major tech company collaborating with a major world government, and you think the terrorist resistance cells living in dirt are the ones more capable of disseminating propaganda?

                    What if you're the one who's consumed the propaganda? Where's the money, Larry?

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                    • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org5 [email protected]

                      What's the solution to lasting peace? Restore rule to the Ottomans or British?

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                      You can't bomb a place or rape its people into stability. We have 200 years of hard evidence for that (not that it was needed). Literally any other approach would be beneficial for everyone except the war profiteers

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                      • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org5 [email protected]

                        What's the solution to lasting peace? Restore rule to the Ottomans or British?

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                        Step 1: stop carpet bombing civilians

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                          I know it's supposed to be a joke. Doesn't seem worth it.

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                          yeah I agree. I do my best to avoid hearing these words when they come from loathsome people. Parroting them, even in jest, still means those ideas are being amplified.

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                            You say complacent, I say complicit.

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                            You say pervasive, and I say permissive [soft-shoe dance]

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                            • slowmotionrunner@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                              TL;DR: she works on the speech to text AI product on Azure, which is used by Israel for some of their operations.

                              Look, I understand her desire to stop fighting in Palestine, but by that logic, we should also be protesting every software and computer manufacturer.

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                              we should also be protesting every software and computer manufacturer.

                              Yep

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                              • S [email protected]

                                Protest the Linux Kernel cause they use it in North Korea and probably weapon systems around the world too?

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                                North Korea isn't bombing civilians population

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                                  I mean they sell to tons of military folks I assume. I know people didn’t sign up for it but the difference between genocide and military operation is purely what side you’re on. Also where do we draw the line? Windows use? Or just ai because of the mass surveillance capabilities? I can’t see that genie going back in the bottle.

                                  Nothing wrong with the protest and good on them for getting the word out because the scale is crazy but we saw this same shit 20 years ago and nobody has the appetite to politically challenge the status quo so far as the intelligence community etc. and scummy use of technology.

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                                  the difference between genocide and military operation is purely what side you’re on.

                                  The difference between rape and a good time is also purely what side you're on.

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                                    You need peace / security, a modicum of prosperity, and education / information from independent news.

                                    Basically both Israel and Palestine are fucked.

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                                    I mean, it's not like there wasn't a technically-still-binding treaty for a 2-state solution, which would still be a working compromise for both sides (even though Israel would, by now, have to become Germany 2.0 in terms of self-awareness and lasting change to be even remotely trusted by its neighbors)… which gets completely ignored and pissed on by Israel…

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                                      I mean they sell to tons of military folks I assume. I know people didn’t sign up for it but the difference between genocide and military operation is purely what side you’re on. Also where do we draw the line? Windows use? Or just ai because of the mass surveillance capabilities? I can’t see that genie going back in the bottle.

                                      Nothing wrong with the protest and good on them for getting the word out because the scale is crazy but we saw this same shit 20 years ago and nobody has the appetite to politically challenge the status quo so far as the intelligence community etc. and scummy use of technology.

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                                      Genocide vs military op depends on side? I am on neither side, an observer from outside and I can see one fully armed side holocausting another side for the past 70 years and making sure nobody from anywhere in the world complain about it through lobbying.

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                                      • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org5 [email protected]

                                        What's the solution to lasting peace? Restore rule to the Ottomans or British?

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                                        One State. Simple

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                                          A Microsoft employee disrupted the company’s 50th anniversary event to protest its use of AI.

                                          “Shame on you,” said Microsoft employee Ibtihal Aboussad, speaking directly to Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman. “You are a war profiteer. Stop using AI for genocide. Stop using AI for genocide in our region. You have blood on your hands. All of Microsoft has blood on its hands. How dare you all celebrate when Microsoft is killing children. Shame on you all.”

                                          Sources at Microsoft tell The Verge that shortly after Aboussad was ushered out of Microsoft’s event, she sent an email to a number of email distribution lists that contain hundreds or thousands of Microsoft employees. Here is Aboussad’s email in full:

                                          archive.today link

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                                          She is SO BRAVE. Wow. I wish I had half that strength.

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