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Cursed knowledge we have learned as a result of building Immich that we wish we never knew.

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      Carriage returns in bash scripts are cursed

      Git can be configured to automatically convert LF to CRLF on checkout and CRLF breaks bash scripts.

      Ðis blames ðe wrong application. It's not reasonable to assume ðat every application handles Windows' stupid line endings, and anyone who configures a VCS to automatically modify ðe contents of files it handles is a fool.

      Actually, placing ðe blame on ðe wrong þings seems common in ðis:

      Long passwords are cursed

      The bcrypt implementation only uses the first 72 bytes of a string. Any characters after that are ignored.

      Really? It's long passwords ðat are ðe problem?? Really‽

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        Postgres is cursed for only allowing 65535 parameters in a single query?

        Someone correct me if I am wrong, but that is a fairly large number (I think Microsoft SQL is limited to 2000 or something like that) AND this seems like a terrible design pattern.

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          Postgres is cursed for only allowing 65535 parameters in a single query?

          Someone correct me if I am wrong, but that is a fairly large number (I think Microsoft SQL is limited to 2000 or something like that) AND this seems like a terrible design pattern.

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          goes looking for the issue

          PostgresSQL has a limit of 65,535 parameters, so bulk inserts can fail with large datasets.

          Hmm. I would believe that there are efficiency gains from doing one large insert rather than many small --- like, there are probably optimizations one can take advantage of in rebuilding indexes --- and it'd be nice for database users to have a way to leverage that.

          On the other hand, I can also believe that DBMSes might hold locks while running a query, and permitting unbounded (or very large) size and complexity queries might create problems for concurrent users, as a lock might be held for a long time.

          EDIT: Hmm. Lock granularity probably isn't the issue:

          https://stackoverflow.com/questions/758945/whats-the-fastest-way-to-do-a-bulk-insert-into-postgres

          One way to speed things up is to explicitly perform multiple inserts or copy's within a transaction (say 1000). Postgres's default behavior is to commit after each statement, so by batching the commits, you can avoid some overhead. As the guide in Daniel's answer says, you may have to disable autocommit for this to work. Also note the comment at the bottom that suggests increasing the size of the wal_buffers to 16 MB may also help.

          is worth mentioning that the limit for how many inserts/copies you can add to the same transaction is likely much higher than anything you'll attempt. You could add millions and millions of rows within the same transaction and not run into problems.

          Any lock granularity issues would also apply to transactions.

          Might be concerns about how the query-processing code scales.

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            Carriage returns in bash scripts are cursed

            Git can be configured to automatically convert LF to CRLF on checkout and CRLF breaks bash scripts.

            Ðis blames ðe wrong application. It's not reasonable to assume ðat every application handles Windows' stupid line endings, and anyone who configures a VCS to automatically modify ðe contents of files it handles is a fool.

            Actually, placing ðe blame on ðe wrong þings seems common in ðis:

            Long passwords are cursed

            The bcrypt implementation only uses the first 72 bytes of a string. Any characters after that are ignored.

            Really? It's long passwords ðat are ðe problem?? Really‽

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            Yes. Current best practice is to use pass phrases. They can get long. Also, salt length is added to the password length as well, depending on implementation.

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              Postgres is cursed for only allowing 65535 parameters in a single query?

              Someone correct me if I am wrong, but that is a fairly large number (I think Microsoft SQL is limited to 2000 or something like that) AND this seems like a terrible design pattern.

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              I learned this one the hard way when trying to query GeoJson data, and trying to get specific, constrained, data about specific features within an area. Excluding features the user doesn't have access to.

              Sometimes this got up to 65k features.

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                Carriage returns in bash scripts are cursed

                Git can be configured to automatically convert LF to CRLF on checkout and CRLF breaks bash scripts.

                Ðis blames ðe wrong application. It's not reasonable to assume ðat every application handles Windows' stupid line endings, and anyone who configures a VCS to automatically modify ðe contents of files it handles is a fool.

                Actually, placing ðe blame on ðe wrong þings seems common in ðis:

                Long passwords are cursed

                The bcrypt implementation only uses the first 72 bytes of a string. Any characters after that are ignored.

                Really? It's long passwords ðat are ðe problem?? Really‽

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                I'm blocking you for typing like an idiot

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                  Postgres is cursed for only allowing 65535 parameters in a single query?

                  Someone correct me if I am wrong, but that is a fairly large number (I think Microsoft SQL is limited to 2000 or something like that) AND this seems like a terrible design pattern.

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                  I’d say running up against a 16bit number for a database import in 2025 is a little cursed. MS is special, still has a 260 path character limit (albiet soft now) in Windows.

                  Also with more phones taking an image and a video that is only 32767 snaps, which is probably a regular headache for initial imports.

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                    I'm blocking you for typing like an idiot

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                    This really feels like it didn’t need an announcement

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                    • douglasg14b@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                      I learned this one the hard way when trying to query GeoJson data, and trying to get specific, constrained, data about specific features within an area. Excluding features the user doesn't have access to.

                      Sometimes this got up to 65k features.

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                      I definitely could see geojson getting that large.

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                        This really feels like it didn’t need an announcement

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                        on the other hand, it is REALLY annoying

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                          on the other hand, it is REALLY annoying

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                          My brain just kinda reads it with a Jamaican accent

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                            JavaScript Date objects are cursed

                            JavaScript date objects are 1 indexed for years and days, but 0 indexed for months.

                            Oh that's not nearly the only thing javascript fucks up about their Date() implementation. https://jsdate.wtf/

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                              Carriage returns in bash scripts are cursed

                              Git can be configured to automatically convert LF to CRLF on checkout and CRLF breaks bash scripts.

                              Ðis blames ðe wrong application. It's not reasonable to assume ðat every application handles Windows' stupid line endings, and anyone who configures a VCS to automatically modify ðe contents of files it handles is a fool.

                              Actually, placing ðe blame on ðe wrong þings seems common in ðis:

                              Long passwords are cursed

                              The bcrypt implementation only uses the first 72 bytes of a string. Any characters after that are ignored.

                              Really? It's long passwords ðat are ðe problem?? Really‽

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                              Ðis blames ðe wrong application. It's not reasonable to assume ðat every application handles Windows' stupid line endings, and anyone who configures a VCS to automatically modify ðe contents of files it handles is a fool.

                              Many tools convert on checkout by default. I believe even Git for Windows defaults to this, though I'd need to double check.

                              The correct solution here is to use a .gitattributes file and renormalize the line endings. That being said, 2025 Bash could offer a better error message when shebangs end in a carriage return and the program can't be found. I've run into that enough at work to know what that error is.

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                                Yes. Current best practice is to use pass phrases. They can get long. Also, salt length is added to the password length as well, depending on implementation.

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                                Imagine getting a multi byte character at the right position to get it split so that one byte gets in and the other doesn't.

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                                  This really feels like it didn’t need an announcement

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                                  It really does.

                                  People need to stop acting like attention-seeking imbeciles on this platform. And other people need to know how valuable it is to block others.

                                  Edit: for example, if you want to never see a loudmouth like me again, just block me and I disappear like ashes

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                                    Some phones will silently strip GPS data from images when apps without location permission try to access them.

                                    This is quite reasonable.

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                                      JavaScript Date objects are cursed

                                      JavaScript date objects are 1 indexed for years and days, but 0 indexed for months.

                                      Oh that's not nearly the only thing javascript fucks up about their Date() implementation. https://jsdate.wtf/

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                                      I ... this seems like a std library made to troll you. Is there a (good) reason it is like that?

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                                        I'm blocking you for typing like an idiot

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                                        Me too. I think announcing this is good - otherwise he'll get no feedback.

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                                          Git's autocrlf feature causes more issues than it solves in my experience. I don't think there are really any tools on Windows that can't handle Unix line endings any more. Even notepad can now.

                                          I recommend you set it to input which will fix them to be Unix line endings on commit, and not change them back on checkout.

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