What’s your ultimate unpopular opinion?
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no, you said those calories are wasted.
"Some of those are useless calories, we can't eat grass and on some lands where only grass grows so cows are a way of using that grass, but that's not the majority."
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As it currently stands, the morally correct option for food production would probably be for a large amount of the population to starve. That, of course, is also not entirely morally correct.
Considering almost 1.5 billion adults in the world are overweight it wouldn't be so bad to let some people starve.
Guess what, most if not all veggies and vegans are also doing something morally dubious at best.
Factory farming, extensive farming, they’re all bad for the soil, bad for native wildlife, bad for native plants. The societal impacts of factory farming are also not small. In the end, the moral lines people draw are mostly at different places, neither is undoubtedly better than the other.Animals needs to eat and drink too, the meat industry has the highest tool on the farming industry.
I have personally tried to give up meat twice, once for 6 months and once for a year. On both cases my health suffered massively for it, and I went back to eating meat. I had a cousin who was, for many years, a hardcore vegetarian. She was also of the opinion that eating meat was wrong. A few years ago she reintroduced fish in her diet to overcome health issues after fighting them for years. Most symptoms subsided in a handful of months. I believe she now also eats beef, although infrequently and in small quantities.
I’m sorry to be that guy but reality is more complex than whatever moral line any one of us would like to draw. You’re not wrong but it would behoove you to acquire some nuance on your thoughts.It sound like your diet was off, if you don't eat animal products you need valid alternatives to complete and balance your diet. In cultures shaped around animal products it may not be automatic or easy to find alternatives. Our ancestors diet for example had less meat and more lentils, in countries were they consume less meat you are most likely to find popular dish with other proteins sources.
I find it amazing how little space corn syrup takes up relative to how much is produced. It's no wonder we use it in everything.
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the vast bulk of the food they eat is grown agriculturally.
sure, but I can't eat cornstalks and I don't want to eat soy cake, so feeding that to livestock is a conservation of resources.
Are you a bot ?
"Vast majority"
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Are you a bot ?
"Vast majority"
Are you a bot ?
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"Some of those are useless calories, we can't eat grass and on some lands where only grass grows so cows are a way of using that grass, but that's not the majority."
most people don't want to eat soy cake, or crop seconds, or spoilage. feeding that to livestock is a conservation of resources, not a waste.
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Regular expressions are not that difficult and coders that refuse to learn them because they "look like line noise" are terrible at their jobs.
Easy enough to write. But reading and maintaining? That's the hard part.
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the vast bulk of the food they eat is grown agriculturally.
sure, but I can't eat cornstalks and I don't want to eat soy cake, so feeding that to livestock is a conservation of resources.
Where are you getting your information?
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Lemmy users project their toxicity towards Reddit. This place can be quite hostile if you don't echo the 'correct' ideals.
The Lemmy users who call themselves "Leftists" are garbage human beings. Shitty, hostile, unnecessarily combative, will disagree with you about anything you say even when you're on the same page.
And most of them aren't really that left. Trying to talk about abolition of police and prisons is something they would never agree to, even though it's a fundamentally leftist ideal. They're just bad people.
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Abortion should be mandatory.
People keep arguing over whether abortion should be legal or not, but my opinion is that it should be forced on everyone whether they want it or not.
Late term abortions up to 100 years after birth should also be considered for inclusion in this rule.One of my favourite activities is finding controversial opinions, then taking an opinion so extreme that it makes everyone else look like a centrist.
But where would we scrape up the funding?
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There is no situation where you should start a greenfield c++ project in current year
Small personal project, like a console app that searches a directory for files of a specific type and produces a json output? I think you are incorrect sir
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Where are you getting your information?
The majority of all the plants that humans grow are fed to livestock.
this is a lie
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Admitting immigrants is based for other reasons
I would argue that it doesn't matter the reason.
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most people don't want to eat soy cake, or crop seconds, or spoilage. feeding that to livestock is a conservation of resources, not a waste.
Even if this were true, it does not address the moral argument that is at the root of this discussion. It's a way that you distract yourself from the moral component of your choices. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, it doesn't even matter if you believe it or not. It just has to distract you long enough that you get past the point where you might accidentally engage your empathy, and have a feeling you don't want to have.
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I think this depends on where you live. If you live in the US, maybe. Private healthcare means the effects on the public are limited to traumatizing people, the services to dispose of your body, and EMS.
In area with socialized healthcare, ain't no way my taxpayer dollars are going towards fixing your head if you crash.
I think that's exactly what happens if you live in an area with socialized healthcare. What are you trying to say
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The Lemmy users who call themselves "Leftists" are garbage human beings. Shitty, hostile, unnecessarily combative, will disagree with you about anything you say even when you're on the same page.
And most of them aren't really that left. Trying to talk about abolition of police and prisons is something they would never agree to, even though it's a fundamentally leftist ideal. They're just bad people.
Barrage of insults against leftists
Says leftists are insulting
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I prefer rap music by white artists because it's less likely to feature the N word.
I only listen to rap by artists that can write a full fledged symphonic track.
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Black liquorice tastes good
Find a European/Dutch deli if you've never been in one you might really enjoy what you find
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Where are you getting your information?
Human food crops could have been grown instead, on a fraction of the land.
human food crops are grown. soy is a great example. about 80% of soy is pressed for oil, and the byproduct is fed to livestock.
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Even if this were true, it does not address the moral argument that is at the root of this discussion. It's a way that you distract yourself from the moral component of your choices. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, it doesn't even matter if you believe it or not. It just has to distract you long enough that you get past the point where you might accidentally engage your empathy, and have a feeling you don't want to have.
Even if this were true
it is
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Even if this were true, it does not address the moral argument that is at the root of this discussion. It's a way that you distract yourself from the moral component of your choices. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, it doesn't even matter if you believe it or not. It just has to distract you long enough that you get past the point where you might accidentally engage your empathy, and have a feeling you don't want to have.
it does not address the moral argument that is at the root of this discussion.
the moral argument in this thread is about allocation of resources. if you want to make a separate moral argument, you're free to do so.
