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What’s your ultimate unpopular opinion?

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  • H [email protected]

    Ah, the age-old unpopularopinions dilemma. Do I upvote because I agree, or upvote because it is unpopular and I disagree?

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    You should upvote that specific reply if you have more than 2 IQ.

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    • corno@lemm.eeC [email protected]

      Hot water? Now that's cereal killer territory right there

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      Whoa hold on, hold on. There's an advocate out there somewhere for putting orange juice on cereal. Hot water seems mild with that in the world

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      • stinky@redlemmy.comS [email protected]

        The Lemmy users who call themselves "Leftists" are garbage human beings. Shitty, hostile, unnecessarily combative, will disagree with you about anything you say even when you're on the same page.

        And most of them aren't really that left. Trying to talk about abolition of police and prisons is something they would never agree to, even though it's a fundamentally leftist ideal. They're just bad people.

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        Most users of those so open source, decentralizing apps are from the USA so, go figure...

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          Whoa hold on, hold on. There's an advocate out there somewhere for putting orange juice on cereal. Hot water seems mild with that in the world

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          proof

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            It's insane how many removed call lots of the ideas here "Eugenics". Eugenics is about producing the best GENES possible, while a lot of the replies here say that bad parents should not be allowed to make kids. Nobody talked about stopping people who aren't so "perfect" (biologically-wise) to make kids. Just not have more kids suffering by growing in abusive and broken households or been poor and have it very hard in life.

            People are Lemmy are not much smarter that those on Reddit, it seems...

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              Suicide is perfectly acceptable and should be a right, we should all have the choice of when we want to go. Some pain, physical or emotional is too much, or loss can be too great.

              I don't care if I could or can get better, I should be able to down some hemlock and leave.

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              I’m with you.

              Many years ago I read a sci-fi story about a society where crimes are punished by extending your life (which is dreary in some way - I don’t remember). The protagonist keeps committing suicide but being brought back to life by advanced medical technology and punished with more time to live.

              In the end, he manages to completely destroy his body, so the state takes a cell from an old blood test, clones the person from it, and adds the punishment to the clone.

              That story stayed with me since then. It really shed light on the point of view that not wanting to live can be natural and forcing people to live in pain can be very cruel.

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              • M [email protected]

                Define needlessly?

                You see, you probably define it as a subjective catch all for anything that you are used to having in your life.

                But if you really inspect that idea you can reach all kinds of extremes, like do you really need a home? You can live on the street, do you really need a car? You could walk technically, do you really need meat? You could live perfectly healthy without it technically, do you need a towel after a shower? You can just let yourself dry, what about chocolate? Just a nice snack, is that a necessity? And marshmallows? Bread? Flavoured drinks?

                So the line is individual and non linear. One might say they can live without cars but not without a home, one would say the opposite, one would claim that chocolate is more important than having towels, etc. Some can also say that the joy they get from turturing an animal is more significant for their own happiness than chocolate, or towels or eating meat, these people are 100% with the parameters of your logic, yet you lable it as unnecessary.

                You could redefine necessity as things that would cause you serious harm if taken, which is still subjective but a little clearer. Most people can agree that never eating chocolate again would suck but not cause any serious harm. Most can also probably agree that not having a home would cause you serious harm. And while you might not like to admit it, scientifically going vegan won't just not cause you harm, it would actually be healthy for you, and just like people who go on all kinds of diets, it sucks at first, but it does not cause any serious harm.

                So ask yourself, what justification can you use to inflict serious harm on to others for the sake of simple pleasure to you?

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                I'm not trying to argue for veganism here. I'm just saying killing animals needlessly is bad. If you need the animal dead, kill it. For its resources.

                If you think that going vegan is good, then do it. If you think eating meat is not the "min max meta" way of living, then you do you. But I think, as long as you don't mistreat the animals, its worth it.

                If you still want more discussion about avoiding mistreating animals and why it matters even if we are going to kill them anyway, ask your friends.

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                  I realize they're not really for the dead, but the living decide that their dead bodies are entitled to more space than some living. Plots cost thousands of dollars. We ostracize the unhoused. Our priorities are broken, and graveyards are yet another thing for those "with" that those "without" will not have.

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                  Not many of the living are entitled to less than 2 m² though. I'm not sure where you're trying to go with this.

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                  • reverendirreverence@lemmy.mlR [email protected]

                    Becoming a parent is not a right, it is a privilege (I guess). You need a license to get married, drive, hunt or fish, your dog needs one. There should be some sort of class and background check you must pass before being allowed to procreate. Just the basics like: this is the level of care and support this small helpless mammal needs to be healthy and grow to maturity. This is how much, minimum, that quality upbringing will cost and do you meet that bare minimum level of competence and income to raise a healthy baby.

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                    Also the amount of effort and wealth expended by the medical profession just so that some people can reproduce is mind boggling.

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                    • K [email protected]

                      If you mean 18 and 19 year olds, you should probably say that instead of "sexually mature teen girls"

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                      I mean, a further controversial opinion - the 18 year old cutoff is completely arbitrary. If we were somehow able to confer the ability to consent based on the maturity level of the individual, then the consent age of any given person might be lower, or might extend all the way to their death. In a small communal society where everyone has intimate knowledge of everyone else, this might be possible, and even preferred. But on the scale of nations, we need rules which are legible to courts, which means we say "the age of consent is X", and assume it covers most cases decently enough.

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                        I agree, but I'm surprised you didn't mention older women who target younger men. Everything is also applicable to them - lust is an equal opportunity employer.

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                        Sure, but these sorts of relationships are both less common and less frowned upon. The thread asked for one's most unpopular opinion.

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                        • A [email protected]

                          That's not middle ground. That BS! And it doesn't even have anything to do with what OP said. It just prevents pregnancy.

                          For fuck's sake, I know people think differently and I try to accept and respect that but, some of you make me really wonder how tf we can think SO differently...

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                          I'm confused as to what your objection is.

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                          • callatecoyote@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                            DUI laws are too strict. It shouldn't be all or nothing at .08 BAC but more severe punishments for more severe inebriation. .08 is pretty low and people who drink regularly can function fine at that level.

                            People hate this one but... hey, it's my most unpopular opinion.

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                            Wow. .08 is ridiculously lax IMO. I agree punishments should scale by inebriation level but I never expected people to think .08 was too strict.

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                              I'm not trying to argue for veganism here. I'm just saying killing animals needlessly is bad. If you need the animal dead, kill it. For its resources.

                              If you think that going vegan is good, then do it. If you think eating meat is not the "min max meta" way of living, then you do you. But I think, as long as you don't mistreat the animals, its worth it.

                              If you still want more discussion about avoiding mistreating animals and why it matters even if we are going to kill them anyway, ask your friends.

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                              as long as you don't mistreat the animals

                              I find it interesting that you consider killing not a mistreatment.

                              You say that killing them for their resources is worth it, but worth it to who? Obviously not the victim. Most horrible things are worth it to the ones committing them.

                              All I'm saying is, while we might have different moral opinions, at the very least provide logical, consistent arguments.

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                                Linux will never come close to replacing Windows.

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                                Windows will never come close to replacing Linux! There's way more Linux out there than there is Windows.

                                Presumably you mean on the personal desktop. In which case I still disagree in the very long term. I think at some point Windows will be replaced by *nix based systems in the vein of OSX and Chrome OS.

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  Ah, the ol' "I have shit opinions and people told me so"

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                                  Well, the thread is about "unpopular" opinions. Tho with the upvotes, I guess my opinion isn't as unpopular as I thought! 🙂

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                                    as long as you don't mistreat the animals

                                    I find it interesting that you consider killing not a mistreatment.

                                    You say that killing them for their resources is worth it, but worth it to who? Obviously not the victim. Most horrible things are worth it to the ones committing them.

                                    All I'm saying is, while we might have different moral opinions, at the very least provide logical, consistent arguments.

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                                    I find it interesting that you consider killing not a mistreatment.

                                    I see you haven't asked your friends, no matter though, I'm just some guy on the internet. You do you!

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                                      I realize they're not really for the dead, but the living decide that their dead bodies are entitled to more space than some living. Plots cost thousands of dollars. We ostracize the unhoused. Our priorities are broken, and graveyards are yet another thing for those "with" that those "without" will not have.

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                                      I understand the sentiment and yes, just like everything else, capitalism has turned death into a money making racket at the expense of the average person.

                                      I live near a cemetery currently and was raised near a different one, they make great neighbors. Quiet and the one near me now is also a wildlife refuge so I can’t call that wasted space. Yes, it’s privately owned but it’s open to the public. Also, I work in historic preservation and love working in and exploring cemeteries.

                                      In the end, I just love the blend of history, architecture, and nature in one place.

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                                        You put milk on cereal??

                                        What about hot water?

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                                        Are you cereal?

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                                        • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

                                          Desktop computers are way better and more fun than using phone for browsing, wikipedia, news, and Lemmy

                                          I rarely use my phone for anything other than texting. I like using my desktop computer to browse and post.

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                                          I’ve been reflecting on this a lot lately, especially after watching a video by an internet funny man I enjoy about him locking his phone away for a month (not a feasible strategy for most people.)

                                          I also enjoy pretty much anything online much more on the desktop. When things started pivoting to app-only it felt very weird at the time - the phone access was always the clunkier secondary backup nice-to-have.

                                          That said, 80% of my browsing happens on my phone. It’s less fun and it’s more mindless, but that’s the truth. I think I’ll hit a point where I find my phone just too magnetic but as a dopamine crutch it’s cripplingly convenient.

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