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What’s your ultimate unpopular opinion?

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  • T [email protected]

    Ah, the ol' "I have shit opinions and people told me so"

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    Well, the thread is about "unpopular" opinions. Tho with the upvotes, I guess my opinion isn't as unpopular as I thought! 🙂

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      as long as you don't mistreat the animals

      I find it interesting that you consider killing not a mistreatment.

      You say that killing them for their resources is worth it, but worth it to who? Obviously not the victim. Most horrible things are worth it to the ones committing them.

      All I'm saying is, while we might have different moral opinions, at the very least provide logical, consistent arguments.

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      I find it interesting that you consider killing not a mistreatment.

      I see you haven't asked your friends, no matter though, I'm just some guy on the internet. You do you!

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        I realize they're not really for the dead, but the living decide that their dead bodies are entitled to more space than some living. Plots cost thousands of dollars. We ostracize the unhoused. Our priorities are broken, and graveyards are yet another thing for those "with" that those "without" will not have.

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        I understand the sentiment and yes, just like everything else, capitalism has turned death into a money making racket at the expense of the average person.

        I live near a cemetery currently and was raised near a different one, they make great neighbors. Quiet and the one near me now is also a wildlife refuge so I can’t call that wasted space. Yes, it’s privately owned but it’s open to the public. Also, I work in historic preservation and love working in and exploring cemeteries.

        In the end, I just love the blend of history, architecture, and nature in one place.

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        • W [email protected]

          You put milk on cereal??

          What about hot water?

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          Are you cereal?

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          • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

            Desktop computers are way better and more fun than using phone for browsing, wikipedia, news, and Lemmy

            I rarely use my phone for anything other than texting. I like using my desktop computer to browse and post.

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            #138

            I’ve been reflecting on this a lot lately, especially after watching a video by an internet funny man I enjoy about him locking his phone away for a month (not a feasible strategy for most people.)

            I also enjoy pretty much anything online much more on the desktop. When things started pivoting to app-only it felt very weird at the time - the phone access was always the clunkier secondary backup nice-to-have.

            That said, 80% of my browsing happens on my phone. It’s less fun and it’s more mindless, but that’s the truth. I think I’ll hit a point where I find my phone just too magnetic but as a dopamine crutch it’s cripplingly convenient.

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            • D [email protected]

              What are the "unpopular opinion" rules on Lemmy?

              My original understanding from outside Lemmy is you should upvote the truly interesting unpopular opinions for visibility.

              For example:

              • "I think potato chips are gross" - that is an unpopular opinion and I am truly interested in why you would say that...upvote.
              • "Elon Musk makes some good points" - not interesting at all and probably political bullshit trolling...no upvote and a downvote if enabled.
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              #139

              Even on reddit, my understanding was upvote if it's relevant to the post and contributes to the conversation.

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              • reverendirreverence@lemmy.mlR [email protected]

                Becoming a parent is not a right, it is a privilege (I guess). You need a license to get married, drive, hunt or fish, your dog needs one. There should be some sort of class and background check you must pass before being allowed to procreate. Just the basics like: this is the level of care and support this small helpless mammal needs to be healthy and grow to maturity. This is how much, minimum, that quality upbringing will cost and do you meet that bare minimum level of competence and income to raise a healthy baby.

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                The problem is that then you need the government's permission to procreate. There's always the valid concern that the government would prevent you from having children to remove some undesirable trait from the population and justify it as being a danger to a child. I know you described basic competency skills, but there would always exist a very credible threat of it being politicized.

                In fact, this already happens for things like queer couples being rejected for adopting children or the Uyghur population being quietly genocided in China. And Eugenics was historically practiced such that criminals would be sterilized as part of their punishment.

                It's worth pointing out that governments already intervene with unqualified parents by removing the child from the household. Shifting the burden of proof from the government needing to show neglect to parents needing to prove themselves worthy is a dangerous amount of authority to cede to a centralized, corruptible power.

                Also, it's not clear how you handle unlicensed parents. People are going to have unsafe sex no matter how illegal you make it. Would you push for preemptively sterilizing everyone and trusting it can be reversed after a license is acquired? Forcing abortions? Confiscating the child after birth?

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                • G [email protected]

                  I’ve been reflecting on this a lot lately, especially after watching a video by an internet funny man I enjoy about him locking his phone away for a month (not a feasible strategy for most people.)

                  I also enjoy pretty much anything online much more on the desktop. When things started pivoting to app-only it felt very weird at the time - the phone access was always the clunkier secondary backup nice-to-have.

                  That said, 80% of my browsing happens on my phone. It’s less fun and it’s more mindless, but that’s the truth. I think I’ll hit a point where I find my phone just too magnetic but as a dopamine crutch it’s cripplingly convenient.

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                  I purposely avoid using my phone to browse. Unless it's something like restaurant review or urgent news as I'm out. I try to stay present, enjoy my space, and tell myself that I can just wait to look it up when I get home.

                  When I 'm out and look around I see everyone just staring down at their screen. It's annoying to see. So I decided not to be like that. Now I actually hear birds, feel breezes, take in sights and smells. And I take my time. For me pesonally, 100 percent improvement of life. I'm rarely ever in a bad mood now.

                  People even mention how I always seem in a good mood. It's because I'm not doomscrolling on my phone all day (like most of Lemmy does)! lol

                  And when I get home and use desktop, I do fun things like create music, write novels, etc. Life is awesome without the 24-hour doom and gloom.

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                    proof

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                    Orange juice?!!?

                    Ok I haven't tried it, so I can't knock it. What's next, coke cola?

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                    • N [email protected]

                      Even on reddit, my understanding was upvote if it's relevant to the post and contributes to the conversation.

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                      Fair enough. In the Elon one there are probably some people that would want to hear more. It was hard for me to come up with an example.

                      We shouldn't downvote the unpopular opinion, we should upvote it. It's counterintuitive but we're actually asking for unpopular opinions. I see a lot of truly interesting unpopular opinions in here that are getting downvoted and I'm not sure everyone is on the same page.

                      The "unpopular opinions" that should be downvoted are the opinions that aren't really unpopular opinions and are just trolling. You know them when you see them.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        Windows will never come close to replacing Linux! There's way more Linux out there than there is Windows.

                        Presumably you mean on the personal desktop. In which case I still disagree in the very long term. I think at some point Windows will be replaced by *nix based systems in the vein of OSX and Chrome OS.

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                        Been hearing this for decades and it has not happened.

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                          I feel like the problem with this argument is that it's consequentialist. You can never be 100% certain which parents will raise their children well. There's no metric that will conclusively tell you.

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                          But you can start them off on the right foot by making sure they have the knowledge and the means to do the job correctly

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                          • S [email protected]

                            It is a basic biological function so you could say pooping is a privilege too.

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                            I am not worried about helping people poop better

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                            • G [email protected]

                              Great idea except for the part where this is eugenics

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                              Eugenics is trying to erase particular traits from a genome which is not, at all, what I stated in my unpopular opinion. I just would like people who are wanting (or whoopsing) a child into the world to have the bare minimum knowledge and tools to do the job "correctly."

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                                Who decides who can pro-create? What is the criteria?

                                I don't see a scenario where this works out well.

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                                I laid out some bare minimums: knowledge about how to take care of and raise a healthy human child and the financial means to do so.

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                                  This is an extremely popular opinion among those who've not unpacked that what you're describing is eugenics

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                                  It is not, at all, eugenics. Nothing in my unpopular opinion has anything to do with genetic traits

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    Wow. .08 is ridiculously lax IMO. I agree punishments should scale by inebriation level but I never expected people to think .08 was too strict.

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                                    It's a slight buzz. People are substantially more dangerous when they are sleep deprived but no laws or severe punishments for that because the system needs its slaves to get to work whether they've rested well or not.

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      Fair enough. In the Elon one there are probably some people that would want to hear more. It was hard for me to come up with an example.

                                      We shouldn't downvote the unpopular opinion, we should upvote it. It's counterintuitive but we're actually asking for unpopular opinions. I see a lot of truly interesting unpopular opinions in here that are getting downvoted and I'm not sure everyone is on the same page.

                                      The "unpopular opinions" that should be downvoted are the opinions that aren't really unpopular opinions and are just trolling. You know them when you see them.

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                                      Agreed, I find it speaks volumes about the person voting whether they're genuinely interested in discussions that may challenge their views or if they lean more towards validation from strangers on the internet.

                                      I'm not sure what the optimal practice would be for encouraging honest and healthy discussion and debate other than creating spaces where rules and conduct are strictly enforced. Like how /r/gaming and /r/games differed on reddit.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        Me and my GF both agree that Beatles songs are fantastic... when performed by people who aren't the Beatles.

                                        I enjoyed the music in the film "Yesterday" muuuuuch more than i enjoyed the original versions.

                                        Maybe it's the 60s style of it, idk. I just don't really get along with it

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                                        Agree in principle. Haven't seen Yesterday, but Across the Universe soundtrack is my go to Beatles cover album.

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                                        • I [email protected]

                                          I realize they're not really for the dead, but the living decide that their dead bodies are entitled to more space than some living. Plots cost thousands of dollars. We ostracize the unhoused. Our priorities are broken, and graveyards are yet another thing for those "with" that those "without" will not have.

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                                          I don't know. Personally I don't need a "place" to go visit someone that is deceased, but I have very close family that needs that place in order to grieve. Pets or human family, they need to be buried and have a marker.

                                          When I lived in a more urban environment the only way to achieve that was through graveyards/pet cemeteries. With some land and the option I'd rather bury people at home now, but lots of people don't have that luxury, but still have the need to "visit" deceased loved ones, and know where they "are."

                                          I'm not one of those people, sounds like you aren't either, but that doesn't mean that a graveyard doesn't serve a useful purpose for the majority of people.

                                          Could they be more efficient? Sure, maybe. But honestly do they really take up THAT much space?

                                          Definitely fits the unpopular opinion tag, but I think you've got some blinders on your empathy if you don't see their value.

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