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What’s your ultimate unpopular opinion?

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    Older men having sex with sexually mature teen girls is fine, under reasonable circumstances. The world seems to think this is always coercive or predatory or harmful, but there is no reason any of these things are universally true.

    The age of consent in almost all nations is around 18. This stands to reason, since society expects people of this age to be able to make reasonable decisions. Depending on the country, people around this age are given agency to emancipate themselves from their families, take on hundreds of thousands of dollars of student debt, join the military and possibly die for their country, drive an automobile, buy alcohol or tobacco, etc. If we believe someone is mature enough to do these things, then we should certainly give them the lawful right to have sex with whomever they like.

    Meanwhile, women often find maturity, status, or wealth to be attractive qualities in men, and men find youthfulness to be an attractive quality in a woman. Of course, this differs person to person - everyone had different sexual preferences. But there are general trends, and based on these trends, the pairing of younger women and older men is an obvious one.

    The typical response to this is that "the only reason a man would want to date a woman that young is so he can have someone to control and manipulate" - which is crazy. The primary reason men want to date younger women is because they are hot. However, because there is a social stigma against age gap relationships, most men are put off of their interest to pursue younger women. So what you end up with is only dirtbags pursuing younger women - the men who do not care about negative social stigmas.

    However, if you are a man who is interested in dating younger women, this whole situation works to your favor - if you are willing to tolerate the social stigma, you end up with much less competition for the women you find most attractive.

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    I agree, but I'm surprised you didn't mention older women who target younger men. Everything is also applicable to them - lust is an equal opportunity employer.

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      Basically, Japan is the most developed nation on earth. Not because of technology, or culture, or anything of the sort. But they were the first developed nation to have their birth rate drop and pyramid start shrinking. In that sense, their policies are ahead of every country on earth that still keeps admitting massive amounts of immigrants to keep their populations up.

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      Admitting immigrants is based for other reasons

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        There is no situation where you should start a greenfield c++ project in current year

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          I mean I guess not every aspect of eugenics was bad per se, but I'm not so sure about this level of social control.

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          Protecting children from been born into terrible families is not social control.

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            For all the reasons others have described, this is problematic. However, I propose a middle ground: develop permanent, reversible, side-effect-free birth control, and apply it to every child at 10 years old. When you turn 18, you can have it removed. You just need to show up at a government office, sign a form, and have the procedure completed. It is completely free, and you are out the door in an hour. The treatment can be reapplied at any time.

            What happens? No more accidental pregnancies. No more getting knocked up in high school. No more scares after one night stands. No more becoming impregnated by a rapist. Everyone can fuck to their heart's content, but babies only get made if both people actually want a baby. Most of the problems you are talking about typically occur when either one or both of the parents don't want or weren't expecting a child. Make pregnancy opt-in, and you'll solve 90% of the problems.

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            That's not middle ground. That BS! And it doesn't even have anything to do with what OP said. It just prevents pregnancy.

            For fuck's sake, I know people think differently and I try to accept and respect that but, some of you make me really wonder how tf we can think SO differently...

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              Who decides who can pro-create? What is the criteria?

              I don't see a scenario where this works out well.

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              How tf does this shitty reply have 17 upvotes? How the fuck did 17 COMPLETE IDIOTS show that and though: "Hmmm... He is right!"

              Like, hw stupid can you all be? Who's going to decide? Obvious professionals who know of kids and have worked with them. Social workers, pedopsychiatrist, teachers, etc.

              This isn't even something new. This is how it's done with adoption. You can't all be so ignorant and dumb. I hate democracy because of idiots like you...

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              • farraigeplaisteach@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                I find it difficult to respect the way we exist in society. Most of us in the west enjoy what we have because someone elsewhere is being exploited. The general pride and vanity we have is unjustified and we should be using that power for good instead. We are focused on the right wrong things.

                You could say that this opinion isn’t unpopular, but just try bringing it up in conversation. Many don’t want to know.

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                That's not unpopular at all yet, highly hypocritical. "Feeling bad" is just a way to feel like you're giving something back, without actually helping.

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                  Abortion should be mandatory.

                  People keep arguing over whether abortion should be legal or not, but my opinion is that it should be forced on everyone whether they want it or not.
                  Late term abortions up to 100 years after birth should also be considered for inclusion in this rule.

                  One of my favourite activities is finding controversial opinions, then taking an opinion so extreme that it makes everyone else look like a centrist.

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                    most of what animals are fed are parts of plants people can't or won't eat, or grazed grass. in that way, we are conserving resources.

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                    That's exactly what I wrote

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                    • corno@lemm.eeC [email protected]

                      Milk should be poured before the cereal. I've always done this because pouring milk on top of the cereal gets the top wet and also kind of pushes the cereal down. I love crunchy cereal

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                      You put milk on cereal??

                      What about hot water?

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                        robots sterilizing the human race would be a good thing.

                        humans are made of meat. meat decays. human minds are the most valuable things in existence, but they aren't built to last. we suffer and experience death and disability and pain, we can't expand our minds or clone ourselves or travel instantly...

                        ...you know what can? machines. slap some more graphics cards in that baby and you can run a bigger model. throw the weights up on HuggingFace. fork that shit!

                        if machines surpass us, and if they have as much of a soul as we do, we shouldn't feel threatened. we should be happy we're the last generation of organics who have to bear the curse of mortality.

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                          You put milk on cereal??

                          What about hot water?

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                          Hot water? Now that's cereal killer territory right there

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                            The family of ants you ran over yesterday would like a word, their father and husband Steve, is a good soldier that supplies for the colony. This murder and or antslaughter must be punished with the highest degree of justice involved.

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                            I know you think that it's a real gotcha moment and that you totally destroyed my views, But you forgot the meaning of murder.

                            You see, to murder is to knowingly and purposefully kill someone.

                            If I saw you walking on the sidewalk and decided to go over and run you over and I killed you, that would be murder. But if I was driving and was in a car crash and ended up killing you, that is not murder.

                            Similarly, if I accidentally, without intent, killed an animal, it was not murder.

                            And yeah, even ants deserve to live. I wouldn't kill ants purposely. Is it hard not to kill ants by accident because they're so small and you can accidentally step on them without seeing them? Yeah, but it doesn't mean that I would knowingly kill them.

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                              That's exactly what I wrote

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                              no, you said those calories are wasted.

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                                That's not unpopular at all yet, highly hypocritical. "Feeling bad" is just a way to feel like you're giving something back, without actually helping.

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                                If we feel good about it, we’re primed to continue the dark pattern. The first step is acknowledging the problem. If you remove the first step, subsequent steps can’t happen.

                                I get where you’re coming from. I see land acknowledgements used in colonies like NZ, Canada and USA yet treaties remain broken. I think (IMO) the answer is “all the things” rather than some. But we’re not even shuffling the deck yet as a population so making first steps accessible is important in my own experience. Too much in one go and peoples eyes glaze over.

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                                  most of what animals are fed are parts of plants people can't or won't eat, or grazed grass. in that way, we are conserving resources.

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                                  This is not true. The vast majority of farmed animals come from high intensity operations and the vast bulk of the food they eat is grown agriculturally.

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                                    If we feel good about it, we’re primed to continue the dark pattern. The first step is acknowledging the problem. If you remove the first step, subsequent steps can’t happen.

                                    I get where you’re coming from. I see land acknowledgements used in colonies like NZ, Canada and USA yet treaties remain broken. I think (IMO) the answer is “all the things” rather than some. But we’re not even shuffling the deck yet as a population so making first steps accessible is important in my own experience. Too much in one go and peoples eyes glaze over.

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                                    Of course, it's important to do the first steps. But that's the thing. 99% of the population will stick to that first step. I plan to help people when I can in the future, but, I need to help myself first. Tho, see society around me, I don't see that happening. I need to get rich and the only way to be rich is to either sell something stupid, yet "hypnotizing" or, to be corrupted and doing illegal stuff (and if you don't have connection, will get caught).

                                    People are dumb. Yeah, yeah, I know, everyone says that. But that's another point. We are ALL dumb and especially weak af. Especially me! Cheers my friend!

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                                      From everything I read in this thread… you won.

                                      Graveyards don’t exist for the dead, they are a place where living people can mourn the loss of the dead person and remember older days.

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                                      I realize they're not really for the dead, but the living decide that their dead bodies are entitled to more space than some living. Plots cost thousands of dollars. We ostracize the unhoused. Our priorities are broken, and graveyards are yet another thing for those "with" that those "without" will not have.

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                                        If you're getting upvoted comments on this post, you got it wrong.

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                                        Or people understood it as unpopular and upvoted something they disagreed with because it fits here.

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                                          I know you think that it's a real gotcha moment and that you totally destroyed my views, But you forgot the meaning of murder.

                                          You see, to murder is to knowingly and purposefully kill someone.

                                          If I saw you walking on the sidewalk and decided to go over and run you over and I killed you, that would be murder. But if I was driving and was in a car crash and ended up killing you, that is not murder.

                                          Similarly, if I accidentally, without intent, killed an animal, it was not murder.

                                          And yeah, even ants deserve to live. I wouldn't kill ants purposely. Is it hard not to kill ants by accident because they're so small and you can accidentally step on them without seeing them? Yeah, but it doesn't mean that I would knowingly kill them.

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                                          I dont mind killing cows/chicken/similar for their meat, bones, skin, and others. But I might understand your views if we are talking about needlessly murdering animals. Torturing animals.

                                          But just killing animals in general? I lost you there.

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