The time has come to punish Orbán, Germany’s next government says
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No, it means both like in English. It is not an uncommon surname either.
like in english? i don't think i follow
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like in english? i don't think i follow
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It means both as in both Hungarian the nationality and Hungarian the language?
Like in English: "The English speak English".
ooooooh, right, i was thinking that it was re: DeepL translating it as "english".
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Why are you appropriating WWI-era Imperial German slogans?
Absolute banger of a slogan
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Hungarian people in general have already turned on Orbán, mostly because the infinite money the EU was funding his propaganda machine with was disturbed.
Orbán has broken down Hungarian society with the help of Merkel in exchange for the complete destruction of Hungarian worker's protections to help the German car industry. The Hungarian people are victims here, the perpetrator is Orbán, but the weapon was all EU funded due to German diplomacy.
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They care about the EU money quite a lot, not so much the ideology.
I stand by the training that if a county would fall below the standards that are required to enter the EU, procedures should start to expell them.
That's all well and good, but the Geman car manufacturing industry liked the whole setup before Orbán became a problem. You are not fighting against Hungarians here, you are fighting European big business, especially German big business.
If you are looking for the receipts for how this went so wrong, look no further than Angela Merkel.
Volkswagen would have to get all their engines through customs if Hungary got kicked out, and they have a bigger say in EU policy than you, or the whole of the NL for that matter. It's not good that this is like this, but we are all victims here.
Except at least Budapest has been protesting this for 15 years, while the wider EU populace has been content for their money to get stolen to oppress Hungary. Most of Hungary is more on board with European values than the Netherlands by the way.
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I don't think any eastern European country does.
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Well it was only a matter of time. Keep voting in Poo-tin's interests and the shit will inevitably hit the Orfán.
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What realistially can EU and Germany do?
EU is already withholding funding, although they have to pay Hungary every time they have to pass something in EU.
Do they even have the vote to suspend voting rights when they have Slovak PM going crazy as well?
If Orbán gets "sanctioned" maybe Slovakia will start to think twice about biting the hand that feeds it. And if they also continue to push the Russian agenda then we'll have an established protocol to deal with them.
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Nah – withdrawing voting rights and funding suffices. Perhaps remove the right for citizens to freely move within the EU as well. You need sticks and carrots, not only sticks.
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