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What task would you excel in if you lived in the Stone Age?

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    It always bugs me how cavemen wheels aren't ever depicted with a matching axle. That's the hard and novel part! I'm glad this guy found an alternative for it.

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      We had shovels in the stone age.

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      Depends what you mean by shovel. Little wooden spades were probably a thing, although hands will work nearly as well on soft substances. For bigger jobs the digging stick was the tool of choice, and then baskets to move the rubble or economic load (ocher, probably) out.

      I'm guessing multi-piece wooden shovels, of they were ever a major thing, had to wait for agriculture. That's an easy thing to make with no proper tools, and not trivial even with.

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        While I believe you, dear nutsack, take a minute and think about the whole process of sucking dick before showers were a thing.

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        They were just used to it. Even today, bathing frequency is culturally dependent.

        When old love poetry talks about the musk of a lover, I do wonder at what range it was noticeable.

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          Honestly if I had my current level of knowledge, probably hygene. Teach them to make soap (animal fat and a source of base like ash), wash their hands, keep poop away from potable water sources, stuff like that.

          Remember, it literally took until Victorian times to figure out that washing your hands prevents disease.

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            Honestly if I had my current level of knowledge, probably hygene. Teach them to make soap (animal fat and a source of base like ash), wash their hands, keep poop away from potable water sources, stuff like that.

            Remember, it literally took until Victorian times to figure out that washing your hands prevents disease.

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            Soap is super important, as for math - I'm guessing it's going to need to be geometry based before they can grok irrational numbers, or hell, symbolic notation in general

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              It always bugs me how cavemen wheels aren't ever depicted with a matching axle. That's the hard and novel part! I'm glad this guy found an alternative for it.

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              With enough grease any old stick can be an axle for a while, the wheel is the hard part.

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                With enough grease any old stick can be an axle for a while, the wheel is the hard part.

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                At the very least, novel applies. Lots of things roll, but what in nature has an axle? I'd also like to clarify that they probably didn't use stone in real life, because that would be dumb. I suppose if we're insisting it's monolithic stone that's true just because of the raw time it would take.

                If you have a proper axle, you have a lathe and turning a solid wheel for a cart shouldn't be too hard. Failing that, or failing the idea to try turning, it has to be freehand, but plenty of people could do that (more so than today, probably, since every moment we spend in a classroom or office is a moment they would be working with their hands).

                If it has to be a wheel that's strong and light like for a chariot, it gets harder and you'll need actual wheelwright skills, but just a cart should be able to run an a solid wheel. If you're going for a chariot you probably want a reasonably well-fit axle as well, although my knowledge of chariot driving is too limited to be super sure.

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                  At the very least, novel applies. Lots of things roll, but what in nature has an axle? I'd also like to clarify that they probably didn't use stone in real life, because that would be dumb. I suppose if we're insisting it's monolithic stone that's true just because of the raw time it would take.

                  If you have a proper axle, you have a lathe and turning a solid wheel for a cart shouldn't be too hard. Failing that, or failing the idea to try turning, it has to be freehand, but plenty of people could do that (more so than today, probably, since every moment we spend in a classroom or office is a moment they would be working with their hands).

                  If it has to be a wheel that's strong and light like for a chariot, it gets harder and you'll need actual wheelwright skills, but just a cart should be able to run an a solid wheel. If you're going for a chariot you probably want a reasonably well-fit axle as well, although my knowledge of chariot driving is too limited to be super sure.

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                  I would argue axels came first, and the wheel is a derivative. See the likely methods accepted by (non ancient alien) archeologists for paleolithic to bronze age wonders made from stone; they used logs on the ground as rollers, essentially an axel, it wouldn't take much of a leap to carve out the majority of those logs to lighten the load, creating a fixed wheel axel, which just needs a semipermanent but smooth rolling attach point to a vehicle or tool to be even more useful.

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                    Leach wood ashes with water to make lye. Soap is easy

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                    Haha yeah I made my comment then scrolled snd saw I’m super unoriginal

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                      Leach wood ashes with water to make lye. Soap is easy

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                      What if there’s no leech wood?

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                        I would argue axels came first, and the wheel is a derivative. See the likely methods accepted by (non ancient alien) archeologists for paleolithic to bronze age wonders made from stone; they used logs on the ground as rollers, essentially an axel, it wouldn't take much of a leap to carve out the majority of those logs to lighten the load, creating a fixed wheel axel, which just needs a semipermanent but smooth rolling attach point to a vehicle or tool to be even more useful.

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                        When I say axle (that is the correct spelling for this, according to a quick search, FYI), I mean it has a stationary bearing in which it turns. A roller is a completely different simple machine with no sliding surfaces. So what you're calling a "semipermanent but smooth rolling attached point".

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