This is madness
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As someone who works all day, commutes, and then has to sleep, I don't understand this viewpoint.
What am I going to do with extra daylight after work? I'm still just going home and then to bed. It's not like I'm taking an excursion to the lake at 8pm when I've got to be up at 5am to get ready for work.
I have no kids, work 40 h/Week and only have a 6 min bike-commute left (used to be 55 min by train from a bigger city).
So in the summer I get up at 5:50, leave for work at 6:50, start work at 7 till 16:30 and am back home at 16:40 (Fridays are shorter). I go to bed at around 23:00. In the winter i sometimes shift the whole thing back by 1 hour.So on a normal weekday I have ~6,5 hours left to cook, clean, meet friends, do sports. So yes, i am absolutely going to the lake at 8pm.
In the winter it's still dark 4 days a week, when I get home. So no visit to the lake, no long bike-tours etc... All activities that require sunlight have to take place on saturday/sunday. I could really use more sunlight in the winter.
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As someone who's house is entirely powered by solar, I love the long days! I also do a lot of outside work so the extra hours of daylight really help me there too
During winter it was so overcast and cloudy that I had to run a generator almost the entirety of the season
If it weren't for having to run the heat pump, I'd have 10X what I need right now. But 3 or 4 hours of usable sunlight in the winter makes it hard to keep up.
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All I can say to that is - can't do attitudes can't do anything. You created a list of problems, and are acting like they are unsolveable, instead of seeing them as a checklist of things to get done to obtain a better life.
Okay, so, like i said earlier...
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Checking in as the weirdo who likes both the long summer days and the short winter days.
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If it weren't for having to run the heat pump, I'd have 10X what I need right now. But 3 or 4 hours of usable sunlight in the winter makes it hard to keep up.
For real, I have wood stoves (and propane heaters a supplemental) for winter heat so luckily a little less load on my system! This past winter was so cold here I had to get a subzero sleeping bag and put a living heater (my dog) inside of it because even the wood stoves couldn't keep up
I have mini splits but because of the sun situation I couldn't run them on heat without burning through my power/spending hundreds of dollars on gas for the generator!
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Full solar power is the dream! That's awesome.
It can be pretty great, but you really do need to treat it differently than you would on the grid!
For example: at night, making sure you don't leave lights on, not running heavy loads like the microwave for very long, etc.
The good news is that as the old expensive equipment gets phased out, it gets easier and cheaper to DIY your off grid (or emergency backup) system!
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Nah, I know Finnish people who like winter and their winters are hard core.
No we don't. Why do you think we drink more coffee than any other country and have shitton of both seasonal and general depression?
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That's daylight saving time's fault.
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For real, I have wood stoves (and propane heaters a supplemental) for winter heat so luckily a little less load on my system! This past winter was so cold here I had to get a subzero sleeping bag and put a living heater (my dog) inside of it because even the wood stoves couldn't keep up
I have mini splits but because of the sun situation I couldn't run them on heat without burning through my power/spending hundreds of dollars on gas for the generator!
wrote last edited by [email protected]I have woodstoves as well, but I'll run the furnace fan to distribute the heat, so there's a bit of use, and it'll kick propane in if the fire burns down, or the heat pump if it's above -15 outside and I have capacity. I tend to be around 10KW of usage but 23KW of panels struggles some days. After about 5 days of poor sun I'll be out of reserve, and I fire up the genny for 5 hours to top them back up.
I've considered building a woodgas source for the genny, that would take me pretty much completely off the teat. I'd love to get a groundsource heat pump but those are mucho dinero.
I've also considered melting urea for a cooling source, since we farm and need N for the sprayer. It's amazing how much heat the endothermic reaction takes, and using a sprayer for topdressing is much more precise than spreading dry fert.
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No we don't. Why do you think we drink more coffee than any other country and have shitton of both seasonal and general depression?
I know you generally hate it but I have met individuals who (claim to) like it
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Found the Dane
I've been to Denmark and I agree, it's great to have sun until late in the evening. It feels like you have more life after a work day.
wrote last edited by [email protected]That, and more energy. I swear something got fucked up at the factory when they made me. I'm a terrible scandinavian. I am prone to pretty intense winter depressions and I'm not a fan of the cold either. I have been so far down the dumps during the winter seasons that I have blacked out entire months and have no memory of what I did and my spouse is like "yeah, you basically spent two months sitting in the same corner of the home when you weren't working, just looking gone, dude." And when I have winters where I feel like I did pretty good and didn't get depressed my man still goes "yeah, nah. You were depressed af. Just not vacant this time".
On the flipside I have been giddy like a kid walking for hours in flip-flops in Mediterranean mountains, getting slow cooked by the summer sun. I remember last time I was visiting Greece with my parents and we walked all morning until noon to get to a nice little beach across the mountains and a couple of locals saw us coming and were fucking horrified that we had come all that way on foot, lol.
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Uh, I've never actually seen the show, but I'm pretty sure Fox Mulder is the guy and something Scully is the lady.
I had ONE job.
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For ghouls, maybe.
Bruh that's so rude, they're just programmers, no need to call them names
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I am no psychologist but it’s about how their day night cycle develops which is very different from adults.
Daylight is one of the systems it uses to self regulate and start feeling awake.
School actually starts to soon in many places, that already a major part of it. Research (not at hand) actually show grades go up if school starts later. We basically force kids to be tired to fit our schedule and it gets worse for teens.
With delayd sunlight. They wont really be properly awake for almost half their “productive” day”.
We also know that lack of sleep is a pillar of mental health conditions, now include all the dormant mental health conditions kids already carry and with growing up in this timeline.
Circadian rhythms aren't based solely on the sun. They are also based on social and physical activity. Things they don't get when sitting indoors for the entirety of their daylight hours.
Lack of sleep is primarily because they are not physically tired come bed time. They aren't physically tired becauae they haven't engaged in any physical activity all day. They've been obligated to sit indoors during daylight hours, and they don't have daylight for outdoor evening activities.
Instead, they get to sit indoors, under artificial lighting and watching bright screens, both of which screw up their sleep schedules.
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I have woodstoves as well, but I'll run the furnace fan to distribute the heat, so there's a bit of use, and it'll kick propane in if the fire burns down, or the heat pump if it's above -15 outside and I have capacity. I tend to be around 10KW of usage but 23KW of panels struggles some days. After about 5 days of poor sun I'll be out of reserve, and I fire up the genny for 5 hours to top them back up.
I've considered building a woodgas source for the genny, that would take me pretty much completely off the teat. I'd love to get a groundsource heat pump but those are mucho dinero.
I've also considered melting urea for a cooling source, since we farm and need N for the sprayer. It's amazing how much heat the endothermic reaction takes, and using a sprayer for topdressing is much more precise than spreading dry fert.
That's awesome, I'd love to get a system like that going for my generator. Good luck with that, if you end up doing it!
What's the insulation situation in your house? I didn't build mine and the previous owner who did used Styrofoam and cinder blocks so it's a losing battle keeping it climate controlled 95% of the time (alongside no central ducts at all minus the chimney)
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That's awesome, I'd love to get a system like that going for my generator. Good luck with that, if you end up doing it!
What's the insulation situation in your house? I didn't build mine and the previous owner who did used Styrofoam and cinder blocks so it's a losing battle keeping it climate controlled 95% of the time (alongside no central ducts at all minus the chimney)
It being summer here, I've stripped the inside walls and insulation. It was built in the 60s and had terrible insulation. I did have to wear a respirator because that era of gyproc used asbestos and mine tested positive. But now I'm furring out the walls on the inside with 2X material to get an R20-24, and I'll probably add a reflective layer for added heat retention/reflection. I also have to re-do the siding, so I might add a 2" closed-cell layer under that for another R8. I'd like to have it competely passive, with a greenhouse on one side to gather winter heat and circulate. Winter here is pretty much 8 months so I have an uphill battle there.
