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France and Germany, in joint collaboration, have developed a Google Docs alternative - and its awesome! (Netherlands are currently onboarded)

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    Dont know why we need another foss office but im certainly not going to complain.

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      It looks closer to the markdown style of formatting though, and I doubt it has page formatting, or other more advanced formatting, or extensions, or a large selection of fonts. Honestly, even though docs has pageless formatting now, most people don't use it when they should, making everything unnecessary harder to read, so this will be better in that regard at least. This is probably good enough for 95% of what people use Docs for, but I wouldn't call it a replacement.

      I haven't used it because I don't have a French government account, so correct me if I'm wrong about any of that.

      Edit: it looks like it only has 1 font and no page formatting

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      • lodra@programming.devL [email protected]

        Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

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        k8s is overkill for a lot of homelabs. Using docker compose is a fraction of that complexity

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          What does this do over what the collabora tools in Nextcloud do?

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          • nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.deN [email protected]

            In the README there's also instructions for Docker Compose, although it's quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I'd want to self-host.

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            it seems to contains development containers and external services containers. So the compose file is more for local dev it seems

            What i do find weird is the choice for Django for the backend. Python is incredibly slow, and django rest framework is even worse.

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              #101

              Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

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                Really glad to see the EU adopt more open source software as a way to combat the centralized control some of the american software companies have over the space.

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                  For offline editing there's already LibreOffice

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                  LibreOffice does everything I need it to and there's no need for anything else.

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                  • panarab@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                    Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

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                    #104

                    Can either of those do collaborative editing? I usually think of that feature when I think of Google Docs

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                    • panarab@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                      Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

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                      While both of those are great software. Unless I'm not aware of something they aren't cloud/network based office suites like Google docs and office 365.

                      It seems this is an alternative to office software where you can work simultaneously and share documents in the same cloud/network.

                      I don't think there is an alternative to office 365 and Google docs at this point that is open source. So this seems like a great project and I'll definitely be considering it for our company.

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                      • trihilis@ani.socialT [email protected]

                        While both of those are great software. Unless I'm not aware of something they aren't cloud/network based office suites like Google docs and office 365.

                        It seems this is an alternative to office software where you can work simultaneously and share documents in the same cloud/network.

                        I don't think there is an alternative to office 365 and Google docs at this point that is open source. So this seems like a great project and I'll definitely be considering it for our company.

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                        What about Collabora Online? It integrates nicely into Nextcloud, but I am not sure about pricing for business use.

                        https://www.collaboraonline.com/collabora-online/

                        Guide for self hosting:
                        https://collabora-online-for-nextcloud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install/

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                        • trihilis@ani.socialT [email protected]

                          While both of those are great software. Unless I'm not aware of something they aren't cloud/network based office suites like Google docs and office 365.

                          It seems this is an alternative to office software where you can work simultaneously and share documents in the same cloud/network.

                          I don't think there is an alternative to office 365 and Google docs at this point that is open source. So this seems like a great project and I'll definitely be considering it for our company.

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                          There's onlyoffice for cloud based office

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                            What about Collabora Online? It integrates nicely into Nextcloud, but I am not sure about pricing for business use.

                            https://www.collaboraonline.com/collabora-online/

                            Guide for self hosting:
                            https://collabora-online-for-nextcloud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install/

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                            Thanks I'll definitely check that out. I've seen some posts about it working on Synology Nas devices so that's very interesting.

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                              Don't know what a Foss is

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                              In case you didn't understood by now, it's free open source software

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                                Don't know what a Foss is

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                                I was going to make a joke but honestly it's refreshing and a good sign that Lemmy is starting to get used by people who don't know what FOSS means now. Welcome.

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                                  If I can copy and paste with thought having to install the offline plugin, then I'm in.

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                                    Nice to see Lemmy is not just a place for complete nerds!

                                    FOSS is free and open-source software. In simple terms, it is any program for which the source code (i.e. the actual code that forms the program, its entire backbone) is available for anyone to see and modify as they see fit, without any technical or legal limitations.

                                    This is normally seen as very positive, because everyone with the knowledge of respective programming languages can inspect the program to see it doesn't do anything malicious, and everyone can change the program to their needs. Also, the original creator of the program does not have power to put any limitations on its use, like introducing payment requirements, or deleting important features, because everyone can immediately spawn a version of the program that doesn't have these changes, while still having the rest.

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                                      I don't like the approach of piling more things on top of even more things to achieve the same goal as the base, frankly speaking. A "local" kubernetes cluster serve no purpose other than incredible complexity for little to no gain over a mere docker-compose. And a small cluster would work equally well with docker swarm.

                                      A service, even made of multiple parts, should always be described that way. It's easy to move "up" the stack of complexity, if you so desire. Having "have a k8s cluster with helm" working as the base requirement sounds insane to me.

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                                      Honestly, a lot of the time I don't understand why a lot of businesses use k8s.

                                      At my company especially, we know almost exactly what our traffic will look like from 9am-5pm. We don't really need flexible scaling, yet we still use it because the technology is hyped. Similar to cloud, we certainly don't need to be spending as much as we do, but since everyone else is on or migrating to the cloud, we are as well.

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                                        k8s is overkill for a lot of homelabs. Using docker compose is a fraction of that complexity

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                                        Yes if single node, kinda if 2-3 nodes, no for anything above that IMHO.

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                                          Honestly, a lot of the time I don't understand why a lot of businesses use k8s.

                                          At my company especially, we know almost exactly what our traffic will look like from 9am-5pm. We don't really need flexible scaling, yet we still use it because the technology is hyped. Similar to cloud, we certainly don't need to be spending as much as we do, but since everyone else is on or migrating to the cloud, we are as well.

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                                          Kubernetes is not really meant primarily for scaling. Even kubernetes clusters require autoscaling groups on nodes to support it, for example, or horizontal pod autoscalers, but they are minor features.

                                          The benefits are pooling computing resources and creating effectively a private cloud. Easy replication of applications in case of hardware failure. Single language to deploy applications, network controls, etc.

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