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  • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

    Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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    From south Brazil.

    For something not urgent I can usually get a private GP within a week or a specialist within a month.

    For something a bit more urgent, usually 1-2 hours in a private hospital, or 2-6 hours in a public one.

    When going private the health insurance has always covered everything, so no cost.
    Never had an emergency so I can't say how it is.

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    • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

      Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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      UK here. This is all "free" (i.e. paid for by a significant portion of every paycheck I ever earn via tax).

      I phone my GP. They say you have I call at 0830 to get an appointment. Call back tomorrow. I ask for an advance appointment and they say they have nothing for 6+ weeks. So I call back the next day and the line is constantly busy. I get through at 0837 after mashing redial constantly. I'm told the appointments are all gone and I should call back tomorrow again. They suggest "if it's urgent then go to the A&E department"....which is clearly inappropriate for my problem. So I call back the next day. The next day I happen to get through at 0833 and they take my details. I'm told the doctor will call me back at some point later that day. Spend the day watching the phone, but can't answer it because I'm work. Duck out of something really important at work to take the call, I'm told to come to the GP later in the day. Later in the day I have work stuff I can't just leave immediately, so I ask for an appointment the next day. Get told to phone back at 0830 the next day to make an appointment.

      I've figured out a way to short circuit the system. There's a national urgent medical line (111) and I have to answer the operator's questions for 20 min (am I bleeding profusely? Am I unable to breathe? Am I going to die imminently?). Finally, they're able to allocate an appointment for my own GP at a sensible time the next day.....apparently thesr guys have access to appointments with my GP which the fucking GP won't give me. Great! I go to the GP to be seen by a FY2 doctor (i.e. 15 months posts undergraduate qualification), this guy admits that he doesn't know what he's doing, that he'll speak to the GP later and phone me back with the outcome later that day. He phones me back later that day saying they don't know what to do so they're going to refer me to a hospital specialist, the hospital appointment should be sent to me in 10 months or so.

      The few times I have had to go to the A&E department with my kid, I've taken chargers, entertainment devices, extra coat for my kid to use as a blanket, food (2 full packed meals), water, video game console.......I'm expecting to be there for about 6 hours if things move really quickly.

      The state of national healthcare in this country. Thank you Conservatives, for 13 years of record low investment.

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      • S [email protected]

        Give them a call. Generally get an appointment within 2 days.
        Get told to take paracetamol for 2 weeks and make another appointment if the problem persists.

        Drs are generally on time maybe 10 min behind but when I was in Australia they would regularly get up to an hour late.

        Costs are generally subsidied by the national government so unless something comes up unexpectedly there is no cost. If something does then you pay a fee and your private health takes care of the rest.

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        I can't tell if your not originally from the states or you just translated that for the foreigner.

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          Give them a call. Generally get an appointment within 2 days.
          Get told to take paracetamol for 2 weeks and make another appointment if the problem persists.

          Drs are generally on time maybe 10 min behind but when I was in Australia they would regularly get up to an hour late.

          Costs are generally subsidied by the national government so unless something comes up unexpectedly there is no cost. If something does then you pay a fee and your private health takes care of the rest.

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          Why do you have private healthcare?

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          • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

            Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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            Call the place, if it is infectious they put you on sick leave and you don't have to infect all ppl at the doctor. If the sick leave runs out, most often 3 days or so mainly to get you to the next weekend. If the issue persists you got to them. Doesn't cost anything beyond what you pay in taxes. Anything that's more involved than the typical issues might have you go to several offices (general offices then to more specialised) until someone makes a decision on what it is and how to deal with it. Also no extra cost; those come when you have something that could be dealt with but is not needed. Like you will have a decent quality of life if they patch it every now and then instead of fixing it. Then you might have to pay for that special extra pls just fix it. At least that's been my experience in Germany.

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            • crazi_man@europe.pubC [email protected]

              UK here. This is all "free" (i.e. paid for by a significant portion of every paycheck I ever earn via tax).

              I phone my GP. They say you have I call at 0830 to get an appointment. Call back tomorrow. I ask for an advance appointment and they say they have nothing for 6+ weeks. So I call back the next day and the line is constantly busy. I get through at 0837 after mashing redial constantly. I'm told the appointments are all gone and I should call back tomorrow again. They suggest "if it's urgent then go to the A&E department"....which is clearly inappropriate for my problem. So I call back the next day. The next day I happen to get through at 0833 and they take my details. I'm told the doctor will call me back at some point later that day. Spend the day watching the phone, but can't answer it because I'm work. Duck out of something really important at work to take the call, I'm told to come to the GP later in the day. Later in the day I have work stuff I can't just leave immediately, so I ask for an appointment the next day. Get told to phone back at 0830 the next day to make an appointment.

              I've figured out a way to short circuit the system. There's a national urgent medical line (111) and I have to answer the operator's questions for 20 min (am I bleeding profusely? Am I unable to breathe? Am I going to die imminently?). Finally, they're able to allocate an appointment for my own GP at a sensible time the next day.....apparently thesr guys have access to appointments with my GP which the fucking GP won't give me. Great! I go to the GP to be seen by a FY2 doctor (i.e. 15 months posts undergraduate qualification), this guy admits that he doesn't know what he's doing, that he'll speak to the GP later and phone me back with the outcome later that day. He phones me back later that day saying they don't know what to do so they're going to refer me to a hospital specialist, the hospital appointment should be sent to me in 10 months or so.

              The few times I have had to go to the A&E department with my kid, I've taken chargers, entertainment devices, extra coat for my kid to use as a blanket, food (2 full packed meals), water, video game console.......I'm expecting to be there for about 6 hours if things move really quickly.

              The state of national healthcare in this country. Thank you Conservatives, for 13 years of record low investment.

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              I have health insurance in the US and still have to pay a fuckton in copays to use it.

              In early May, I searched GPs on my Healthcare plan, and I get to see a doctor on Jully 11.

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              • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                I call my Dr.

                I book an appointment. If urgent but not medically urgent to my immediate wellbeing I can get in in a week or so.

                If urgent, but not emergency, I can go to a clinic or the hospital non emergency (hospital can have wait times up to several hours)

                If emergency and severe or traumatic injury or life threatening - emergency at hospital. Triage assesses need. Last time I had to take someone it was maybe a 20 minute wait - they had been hurt pretty bad - got jumped.

                None of any of the above will cost me any money.

                An ambulance, though, costs like 75$ if it is not life threatening.

                Canada.

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                • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                  Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                  I go there, try to explain what I have (I don't speak Korean and the doctor is not very good in English). Then the might give me a shot and let me inhale some stuff. Then I pay some mony (don't remember exactly how much, but not so much) and they give me a prescription and I go away. Most of the time it takes about 10 minutes.

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                  • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                    From US and was visiting Singapore when I came down with a sinus infection.

                    Took the elevator from the government controlled housing to the ground floor.

                    Walked 5 minutes to the attached small community strip mall which consisted of cheap food options, a grocery/convenience store, and a number of essential stores including a small drs office.

                    Waited 15 minutes, saw the dr. Explained my condition, allergies and medication I usually take and went through the exam. We had to help look up some of the medication names.

                    Paid $35 for the exam. There was some confusion because I expected it to cost more and I asked about. They apologized and said that since I’m foreign I had to pay full price.

                    Walked across the mall to the small pharmacy. Waited 5 minutes for the antibiotics prescription. Paid maybe $5?

                    Bought some tea from the grocery and was better over a few days.

                    People from the US who travel and need healthcare know very well our system is the worst.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      I call my Dr.

                      I book an appointment. If urgent but not medically urgent to my immediate wellbeing I can get in in a week or so.

                      If urgent, but not emergency, I can go to a clinic or the hospital non emergency (hospital can have wait times up to several hours)

                      If emergency and severe or traumatic injury or life threatening - emergency at hospital. Triage assesses need. Last time I had to take someone it was maybe a 20 minute wait - they had been hurt pretty bad - got jumped.

                      None of any of the above will cost me any money.

                      An ambulance, though, costs like 75$ if it is not life threatening.

                      Canada.

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                      The hospitals usually have a severity for triage. If you broke your arm your going to be waiting longer than someone with a sever allergic reaction. Which makes sense, some injuries can wait longer than others.

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                        The hospitals usually have a severity for triage. If you broke your arm your going to be waiting longer than someone with a sever allergic reaction. Which makes sense, some injuries can wait longer than others.

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                        That part is normal in US emergency rooms as well.

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                        • crazi_man@europe.pubC [email protected]

                          UK here. This is all "free" (i.e. paid for by a significant portion of every paycheck I ever earn via tax).

                          I phone my GP. They say you have I call at 0830 to get an appointment. Call back tomorrow. I ask for an advance appointment and they say they have nothing for 6+ weeks. So I call back the next day and the line is constantly busy. I get through at 0837 after mashing redial constantly. I'm told the appointments are all gone and I should call back tomorrow again. They suggest "if it's urgent then go to the A&E department"....which is clearly inappropriate for my problem. So I call back the next day. The next day I happen to get through at 0833 and they take my details. I'm told the doctor will call me back at some point later that day. Spend the day watching the phone, but can't answer it because I'm work. Duck out of something really important at work to take the call, I'm told to come to the GP later in the day. Later in the day I have work stuff I can't just leave immediately, so I ask for an appointment the next day. Get told to phone back at 0830 the next day to make an appointment.

                          I've figured out a way to short circuit the system. There's a national urgent medical line (111) and I have to answer the operator's questions for 20 min (am I bleeding profusely? Am I unable to breathe? Am I going to die imminently?). Finally, they're able to allocate an appointment for my own GP at a sensible time the next day.....apparently thesr guys have access to appointments with my GP which the fucking GP won't give me. Great! I go to the GP to be seen by a FY2 doctor (i.e. 15 months posts undergraduate qualification), this guy admits that he doesn't know what he's doing, that he'll speak to the GP later and phone me back with the outcome later that day. He phones me back later that day saying they don't know what to do so they're going to refer me to a hospital specialist, the hospital appointment should be sent to me in 10 months or so.

                          The few times I have had to go to the A&E department with my kid, I've taken chargers, entertainment devices, extra coat for my kid to use as a blanket, food (2 full packed meals), water, video game console.......I'm expecting to be there for about 6 hours if things move really quickly.

                          The state of national healthcare in this country. Thank you Conservatives, for 13 years of record low investment.

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                          Some hospitals are horribly staffed like this. In Sweden I had this problem until I changed to a different (government-owned) GP.

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                            From US and was visiting Singapore when I came down with a sinus infection.

                            Took the elevator from the government controlled housing to the ground floor.

                            Walked 5 minutes to the attached small community strip mall which consisted of cheap food options, a grocery/convenience store, and a number of essential stores including a small drs office.

                            Waited 15 minutes, saw the dr. Explained my condition, allergies and medication I usually take and went through the exam. We had to help look up some of the medication names.

                            Paid $35 for the exam. There was some confusion because I expected it to cost more and I asked about. They apologized and said that since I’m foreign I had to pay full price.

                            Walked across the mall to the small pharmacy. Waited 5 minutes for the antibiotics prescription. Paid maybe $5?

                            Bought some tea from the grocery and was better over a few days.

                            People from the US who travel and need healthcare know very well our system is the worst.

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                            People from the US who travel and need healthcare know very well our system is the worst.

                            I mean, we don't turn to witch doctors, so I guess we're not literally the worst, but....

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                              People from the US who travel and need healthcare know very well our system is the worst.

                              I mean, we don't turn to witch doctors, so I guess we're not literally the worst, but....

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                              I'd rather go to some nice lady who know what all herbs do what than Dr fuckin oz

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                                I call my Dr.

                                I book an appointment. If urgent but not medically urgent to my immediate wellbeing I can get in in a week or so.

                                If urgent, but not emergency, I can go to a clinic or the hospital non emergency (hospital can have wait times up to several hours)

                                If emergency and severe or traumatic injury or life threatening - emergency at hospital. Triage assesses need. Last time I had to take someone it was maybe a 20 minute wait - they had been hurt pretty bad - got jumped.

                                None of any of the above will cost me any money.

                                An ambulance, though, costs like 75$ if it is not life threatening.

                                Canada.

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                                I think your definition of "urgent" might be off if you think that it can wait a week or so.

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                                  Call the place, if it is infectious they put you on sick leave and you don't have to infect all ppl at the doctor. If the sick leave runs out, most often 3 days or so mainly to get you to the next weekend. If the issue persists you got to them. Doesn't cost anything beyond what you pay in taxes. Anything that's more involved than the typical issues might have you go to several offices (general offices then to more specialised) until someone makes a decision on what it is and how to deal with it. Also no extra cost; those come when you have something that could be dealt with but is not needed. Like you will have a decent quality of life if they patch it every now and then instead of fixing it. Then you might have to pay for that special extra pls just fix it. At least that's been my experience in Germany.

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                                  That doesn't sound great because common infections have similar symptoms. You might not know whether you have the flu or strep throat or just a cold unless you go in to take a test. If it's strep, you need an antibiotic. If it's one of those others, you don't. So do they just ignore that you might need an antibiotic for those first few days?

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                                  • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                    Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                                    UK and Australia
                                    I’m originally from the UK but lived in Aus for 20 years. I returned to the UK a year ago due to my Mom getting a terminal diagnosis.

                                    In the UK I’ve had two GPs this year due to moving around. First GP you’d request appointments via an online form that was available for about an hour at the start of every day and they’d send you a date and time once they’d triaged all the requests. Usually got in within a day or two. Second GP requires a call, and you can book an appointment provided it’s not a busy day, again usually 2-3 days depending on how busy they are. Both GPs were via the NHS, so no upfront cost, just a small amount taken from your pay each month.

                                    In Aus, my GP was free at the point of delivery. It was pretty easy to get appointments and if you really wanted to see him, you could just turn up and wait until he could fit you in. Sometimes a 2 hour wait, but you could put your name down and return in 2 hours. I’m planning to change GP when I get back so will probably end up finding one where you pay an additional fee. There’s almost no doctors where you don’t pay extra any more.

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                                      I think your definition of "urgent" might be off if you think that it can wait a week or so.

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                                      No that tracks for me, and I work in Healthcare in the US just the same. I personally had what I perceived as urgent but non-emergent and got into my doctor within a week.

                                      I would go to urgent care (I know it's in the name but alas) if I had more pressing concerns or symptoms were bad but not life-threatening.

                                      I would go to the ER if I was in massive pain and felt at imminent risk of death.

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                                      • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                                        I usually book an appointment. Appear on the proper day. Get my exams done, leave, no money spent. If it's like a screening for something that can be done in a public health clinic, I'll go, spend about 30 mins to one hour waiting, talk to the doc, get whatever prescriptions they give me, get discharged and go home, no money spent.

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                                        • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                          Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                                          Depends. When I broke my leg I had to wait a couple hours to get in to see a doctor, then surgery was a couple days. Even without a family doctor though if you’re just sick and need like some penicillin or stitches or something as long as you don’t go in a major city it’s like 15 minute wait times, usually no longer than an hour. Then you go in, tell em what’s wrong, they deal with it and prescribe you some drugs, then you leave and go get your drugs at the drug store. You gotta pay for the drugs unless you have benefits at your job though. Everything else is free.

                                          Edit: am Canadian.

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