Large majority of Europeans support retaliatory tariffs against US, poll finds
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The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it's interesting.
These survey results appear in the article:
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The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it's interesting.
These survey results appear in the article:
They absolutely should
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They absolutely should
I could imagine better ideas than tariffs on Jack Daniel's tbh.
E.g.: Mandating EU companies to use EU server infrastructure, mandating large companies to use open-source software (ideally developed in the EU), stopping those F35 orders, throwing the US army off Greenland...
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The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it's interesting.
These survey results appear in the article:
As long as they hit the red states. You know, the ones that by sheer volume, supported the moron that started the tariffs.
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The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it's interesting.
These survey results appear in the article:
I don't know about tariffs, but i would like to see fees for data transfering of people outside of EU, more fees over GDPR non compliance and certain bans of data transfering to US (health data, finascial data etc). This is where they can be bleed.
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I could imagine better ideas than tariffs on Jack Daniel's tbh.
E.g.: Mandating EU companies to use EU server infrastructure, mandating large companies to use open-source software (ideally developed in the EU), stopping those F35 orders, throwing the US army off Greenland...
They tend to aim for things made in states that elected the politicians responsible. In the case of Jack Daniels, that comes from Mitch McConnell's state
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The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it's interesting.
These survey results appear in the article:
Kiddo's for the bias disclaimer & adding in the graph.
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The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it's interesting.
These survey results appear in the article:
thank you, we need the oligarchs weakened if we ever want america to be a democracy again
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They tend to aim for things made in states that elected the politicians responsible. In the case of Jack Daniels, that comes from Mitch McConnell's state
Sure, but acting like that means that you basically still believe in Transatlanticism, and hope for US Republicans to come to their senses rather than recognizing that the massive dependence on the US in terms of IT and military has to be dissolved, as the US admin is currently looking for new peers and for the next ten years likely won't be particularly stable.
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The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it's interesting.
These survey results appear in the article:
Hit them back - hard!
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The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it's interesting.
These survey results appear in the article:
Lets do it!
And mark all EU products with the EU flag!
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Kiddo's for the bias disclaimer & adding in the graph.
It's odd that the article title says "majority of Europeans" when the article itself makes clear that only some western European countries were surveyed. So I thought people should know that.
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The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it's interesting.
These survey results appear in the article:
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Sure, but acting like that means that you basically still believe in Transatlanticism, and hope for US Republicans to come to their senses rather than recognizing that the massive dependence on the US in terms of IT and military has to be dissolved, as the US admin is currently looking for new peers and for the next ten years likely won't be particularly stable.
I don't think I agree with that. Decoupling from American military and tech products can happen with or without tariffs, but doing so is primarily for the security of Europe. The tariffs are done to damage the credibility of the politicians responsible for them. They're attempting to achieve separate goals. Regardless of whether Europe can trust America — and I agree with you that Europe can't — if Europe has the ability to turn American public opinion against policies that harm Europe, doing so is beneficial to Europe. Better a large power that can't be trusted than one that is actively hostile.
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Kiddo's for the bias disclaimer & adding in the graph.
Not to be that guy, but technically:
- Denmark & Sweden are Northern Europe
- Germany is Central Europe
- Spain & Italy are Southern Europe
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I don't think I agree with that. Decoupling from American military and tech products can happen with or without tariffs, but doing so is primarily for the security of Europe. The tariffs are done to damage the credibility of the politicians responsible for them. They're attempting to achieve separate goals. Regardless of whether Europe can trust America — and I agree with you that Europe can't — if Europe has the ability to turn American public opinion against policies that harm Europe, doing so is beneficial to Europe. Better a large power that can't be trusted than one that is actively hostile.
Yeah, that's a reasonable take. Still, with Silicon Valley having an outsized influence on the new US admin, I think I wouldn't mind them hurting a little too. And I find the priorities may be mixed up too. Without essentially a miracle happening, Trump will continue to be there for a while and he will continue to do damage. At least tariffs are introduced easily though, and I don't think anyone will give a shit whether they get drunk on Jack Daniel's or some European spirit.
(The prospective new German coalition is even looking to expand a Bavarian pilot of Palantir nationwide -- despite the fact that Palantir founder Peter Thiel is the man behind JD Vance. That's going to be a massive blow to national security.)
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Sure, but acting like that means that you basically still believe in Transatlanticism, and hope for US Republicans to come to their senses rather than recognizing that the massive dependence on the US in terms of IT and military has to be dissolved, as the US admin is currently looking for new peers and for the next ten years likely won't be particularly stable.
Any dependence on Micro$quash or Meta was always idiocy to begin with.
Apple and AWS, less so but still understandable.
Google is right out.
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I could imagine better ideas than tariffs on Jack Daniel's tbh.
E.g.: Mandating EU companies to use EU server infrastructure, mandating large companies to use open-source software (ideally developed in the EU), stopping those F35 orders, throwing the US army off Greenland...
That would be a dream! We should try to take away any possibility of blackmailing us from the outset!
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Not to be that guy, but technically:
- Denmark & Sweden are Northern Europe
- Germany is Central Europe
- Spain & Italy are Southern Europe
I don't disagree with this graph but in different context you can also divide Europe in to western European countries and eastern European countries according to their alignment during the majority of the previous century. In that case, Bulgaria, Poland and the Baltic states all belong to the group of eastern European state. I think this is the context in which OP meant the fact that mainly western countries are surveyed. I often see headlines mentioning Europe or Europeans and only refer to the EU and it's citizens, in the same 'wrong' way.
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Sure, but acting like that means that you basically still believe in Transatlanticism, and hope for US Republicans to come to their senses rather than recognizing that the massive dependence on the US in terms of IT and military has to be dissolved, as the US admin is currently looking for new peers and for the next ten years likely won't be particularly stable.
I get what you're feeling, but I hope EU doesn't respond from their emotions but with rational thinking. In the end the well being of EU citizens should come first. Independence is good, but a hard turn can have radical consequences also financially. Taking a small economic hit is imho much more preferable than a long recession. We as individuals might be able to carry the consequences of our changing behaviour but I think it's better if the governments of Europe make careful decisions taking in account what pro's and cons there are to their measurements.
