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  • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

    cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

    Hey everyone

    We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

    What you need to know

    As of now:

    • New user registrations are disabled
    • Creating new communities is disabled

    What you should do:

    • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
    • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
    • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
    • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

    Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

    Why this is happening

    The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

    The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


    We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

    – lemm.ee team

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    #163

    This is like closing a nature reserve due to insufficient landscapers.

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    • rglullis@communick.newsR [email protected]

      At one time I thought community spirit (for what that’s worth) would kind of tilt things in a long-term sustainable direction.

      Community is not enough. I wrote that in 2022 with Twitter and Mastodon in mind, but the same principle still applies for Reddit vs Lemmy.

      Lots of people say they want to "stick it to the man" but very few are actually going to put in the work and/or money required to actually succeed.

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      #164

      Well, yeah. In .ee's case, one might surmise that Sunaurus was a whiz at backend-stuff, but maybe didn't have enough experience as lead admin in the specific capacity of dealing with multitudes of 'people fires.' (not that he wasn't absolutely wonderful and professional in everything he handled IMO) But, a lead admin would ideally be a manager dealing with direct-reports, not the guy who had to do it mostly alone for a long time, as I think he did.

      What the community contributed (in the positive sense) to Lemm.ee was more than enough AFAIK. What was critically needed, rather, was a robust admin crew, be it fully volunteer and/or partly paid by donation. Maybe various tasks could have been rotated too, such as: "I'll handle the reports this week, Ilona will handle requests, Tomaso will handle documents, and Rafo will handle mod interactions, then we'll switch roles next week." Or something like that... Anything that worked, really.

      Indeed, it would be really interesting to see how other big instances are handling all this, specifically the bad actors that all sites must deal with, and which ultimately seemed to bring down Lemm.ee.

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      • kichae@wanderingadventure.partyK [email protected]

        Touche. I guess what I should have more rightly said was, given the level of contribution users have shown themselves willing to make, it's too small to be a job.

        But in the end, I believe people aren't willing to pay because we look like other spaces where they don't have to pay, and we gate nothing behind paywalls. Most people don't pay for services on the Internet, they pay for special privileges and to stand out. And if basic talk and text service was freely provided by volunteers, they'd milk those volunteer organizations dry, too.

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        #165

        Most people don’t pay for services on the Internet

        Yeah, but we are not "most people". I thought "we" understood if you are not paying for the product, then you are the product. I thought "we" understood that "Free software" was not a "free lunch".

        And if basic talk and text service was freely provided by volunteers, they’d milk those volunteer organizations dry, too.

        This is also why I think we should flip the script and stop cheering admins that run "free" instances. We should stop helping admins who can not make rent and we should start telling them to start valuing their work and demand proper compensation.

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        • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

          cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

          Hey everyone

          We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

          What you need to know

          As of now:

          • New user registrations are disabled
          • Creating new communities is disabled

          What you should do:

          • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
          • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
          • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
          • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

          Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

          Why this is happening

          The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

          The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


          We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

          – lemm.ee team

          sgbrain7@lemm.eeS This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote on last edited by
          #166

          oh shit 😞

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          • 3 [email protected]

            Idk how viable it is, but I wish they had asked if someone wanted to take over and let them

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            #167

            Anyone is free to spin up an instance, go nuts.

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            • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

              cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

              Hey everyone

              We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

              What you need to know

              As of now:

              • New user registrations are disabled
              • Creating new communities is disabled

              What you should do:

              • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
              • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
              • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
              • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

              Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

              Why this is happening

              The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

              The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


              We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

              – lemm.ee team

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              wrote on last edited by [email protected]
              #168

              Almost as if Lemmy should not tie each community to only one specific underlying server.

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              • S [email protected]

                When I looked through the list of lemm.ee communities I was subbed to, my first thought was: omg I hope JohnnyEnzyme takes this ok...

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                wrote on last edited by
                #169

                ¡Hola, compa!
                Yes I'm bummed, but we'll see what happens. Blaze has offered some help, and linked some kind of 'PieFed migration project,' above.

                At this moment I'd say that even if a migration *is* possible, there's a very strong chance that EGN+ will need a new mod(s) to run the place. Aside from that, and if my health picks up, I'd be happy to keep contributing content, and maybe help out here and there.

                I'll probably be posting that message to the community soon, but am mentioning it to you first, and for anyone else reading. 😃

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                • S [email protected]

                  Right? Where will I go? What will I do?

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                  #170

                  I figured it's all federated and I can block and find tune regardless, so I just hopped over to .world. Literally took 2 minutes, so that was nice at least. But sad to see it go. It was my home for two years and it was perfect for what I needed 😕

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                  • R [email protected]

                    You are a lemme.ee user, so you will need to find another instance (it's like a server) if you want to keep using Lemmy - and I hope you do!

                    https://join-lemmy.org/ has a listing of instances, though I'm sure others will hop in here and recommend some.

                    Edit: This comment describes how to migrate your subscriptions, blocks, and saved posts

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                    #171

                    Neat, thank you!

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                    • R [email protected]

                      You are a lemme.ee user, so you will need to find another instance (it's like a server) if you want to keep using Lemmy - and I hope you do!

                      https://join-lemmy.org/ has a listing of instances, though I'm sure others will hop in here and recommend some.

                      Edit: This comment describes how to migrate your subscriptions, blocks, and saved posts

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                      #172

                      Is there a basic rundown on the different Lemmy Servers eg I have heard negative things about Hexbear etc?

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                      • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

                        cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

                        Hey everyone

                        We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

                        What you need to know

                        As of now:

                        • New user registrations are disabled
                        • Creating new communities is disabled

                        What you should do:

                        • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
                        • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
                        • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
                        • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

                        Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

                        Why this is happening

                        The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

                        The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


                        We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

                        – lemm.ee team

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #173

                        After the call for admins, there was never an indication that the search wasn't going well. Honestly, I would've put some time in (& I'm sure many others would've) if we'd known closure was imminent.

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                        • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

                          cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

                          Hey everyone

                          We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

                          What you need to know

                          As of now:

                          • New user registrations are disabled
                          • Creating new communities is disabled

                          What you should do:

                          • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
                          • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
                          • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
                          • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

                          Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

                          Why this is happening

                          The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

                          The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


                          We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

                          – lemm.ee team

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #174

                          At this point, I will just pack a kit and go into the woods, cut all human contact

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                          • W [email protected]

                            Is there a basic rundown on the different Lemmy Servers eg I have heard negative things about Hexbear etc?

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #175

                            I would just look for an instance that doesn’t prioritize propaganda buzzwords like “freedom”

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                            • psythik@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                              Context?

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                              #176

                              Certain kinds of people blame Russia for all bad things in their life

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                              • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

                                cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

                                Hey everyone

                                We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

                                What you need to know

                                As of now:

                                • New user registrations are disabled
                                • Creating new communities is disabled

                                What you should do:

                                • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
                                • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
                                • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
                                • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

                                Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

                                Why this is happening

                                The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

                                The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


                                We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

                                – lemm.ee team

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #177

                                I'll take this as a sign to switch to reddit instead!

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                                • C [email protected]

                                  Yes, actually. I probably could have stepped up to be an admin, but tbh, my plate is already overfull.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #178

                                  I messaged sunaurus a year ago about potentially being a mod, and he told me it'd be difficult and I ended up chickening out. Now I wish I had stepped up also

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                                  • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

                                    cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

                                    Hey everyone

                                    We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

                                    What you need to know

                                    As of now:

                                    • New user registrations are disabled
                                    • Creating new communities is disabled

                                    What you should do:

                                    • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
                                    • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
                                    • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
                                    • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

                                    Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

                                    Why this is happening

                                    The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

                                    The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


                                    We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

                                    – lemm.ee team

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #179

                                    Looks like I'm quite late to suggest, but couldn't we use AI to admin instances & mod communities, if not fully then at least the bulk of it? Also charge users on a freemium model so as to pay for admins / mods? Every instance needs an incentive structure to maintain a healthy & happy community and a way to pay for the operations required to run the instance.

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                                      Is there a basic rundown on the different Lemmy Servers eg I have heard negative things about Hexbear etc?

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #180

                                      Lemmy.world -- biggest, defaultest instance. All the pros and cons associated with that

                                      Lemmy.ml -- very authoritarian leftist instance. Has a tankie problem but also has cool communists. Has heavy censorship

                                      Lemmy.blahaj.zone -- trans focused, very queer, authoritarian by nature of being a trans safe space. Generally chiller but contradictorily also the center of a lot of drama, because people love to hate trans safe apaces.

                                      dbzero -- don't remember the actual domain, run by dbZ. Anarchist democracy instance, very cool and chill, it's what I'd sign up on if I started afresh

                                      sh.itjust.works -- tbh don't know much about them but pretty straightforward, is what the label aays, it just works

                                      Hexbear -- wver wanted to see a aerver that unironically loves the chinese communist party and thinks north korea is aspirational? There you go

                                      pawb.social -- I think this might be am mbin instance instead of a lemmy instance but I'm not sure. Can be summarized as " the furry one"

                                      lemmynsfw -- the porn one. Most instances are defederated feom it

                                      Those are the ones foremost in my mind. Tons of small European ones that are focused on specific countries too. I anticipate replies giving me shit for uttering the word "tankie".

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                                      • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

                                        cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

                                        Hey everyone

                                        We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

                                        What you need to know

                                        As of now:

                                        • New user registrations are disabled
                                        • Creating new communities is disabled

                                        What you should do:

                                        • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
                                        • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
                                        • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
                                        • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

                                        Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

                                        Why this is happening

                                        The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

                                        The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


                                        We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

                                        – lemm.ee team

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #181

                                        I know that instance had a policy of trying not to defederate from anything (unless very necessary). Is there another instance like this that will not be shutting down?

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                                          Thank God I don't have to reblock all the furry communities.

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                                          #182

                                          it seems that this will save your subscriptions list and some other settings but not your list of blocked communities. at least, it hasn't worked like that for me.
                                          edit - disregard! they showed up after a while.

                                          also, you need to save your avatar pic and re-upload.

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