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  • prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

    General instances:

    Sopuli.xyz is a great medium sized general purpose instance. Good admins that update to the latest Lemmy release consistently.

    Lemmy.cafe could be another option if you'd prefer a smaller general purpose instance (to help spread the load and prevent the burnout that lemm.ee experienced) that's also run by a solid admin.

    Themed instances:

    Retrolemmy.com - a cool place for retro tech/game enthusiasts

    Literature.cafe - For book lovers and readers!

    lemmy.dbzer0.com - fantastic instance for Anarchists and those who like to go Yarr! 🏴‍☠️

    Programming.dev - For techies interested in programming and linux

    Mander.xyz - Focused on Science and Nature

    Lemmy.zip - PC Gaming and Tech focused

    You can find more over at Lemmyverse.net

    Piefed:

    If you're willing to try an entirely new way to interact with Lemmy and the threadiverse, consider giving Piefed.social a try, a completely independent project from Lemmy. It's still a little behind in some ways, but also has a bunch of features that lemmy doesn't. If you're a community mod looking to migrate, Piefed apparently makes it particularly easy!


    Also @[email protected]

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    #64

    Many thanks for that curated list

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    • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

      cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

      Hey everyone

      We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

      What you need to know

      As of now:

      • New user registrations are disabled
      • Creating new communities is disabled

      What you should do:

      • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
      • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
      • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
      • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

      Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

      Why this is happening

      The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

      The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


      We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

      – lemm.ee team

      the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote on last edited by [email protected]
      #65

      What a loss. =(

      It's a strange quirk of lemmy that we will continue to be able to see content from lemm.ee even after they've shut down. It'll feel like seeing ghosts.

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      • johnnyenzyme@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

        It really wasn't, sadly.

        The site founder put in an incredible amount of work setting the place up (something like 10 support servers at US$200/mo), but also tried to be lead admin for a year+, and that's typically an extremely tough double-job to do well on a big, popular site / place. In his various posts he sometimes talked about all the vile content and destructive users the sub-admins had to deal with on an ongoing basis, and it certainly sounds like that burned out the whole volunteer staff in the end.

        From my own POV, and something I noticed from the beginning here, is that in the wake of Reddit (and other places) treating its users as assets, it was important to grow a userbase across the Lemmysphere and Fediverse with a strong community spirit. To me that means more participation, more content-creation, and more willingness to be civil and cooperate. Not that these things didn't happen to a significant extent, but it seems like a lot of .ee users and visitors, while willing to hang out at the place, were moreso just willing to soak up the content without putting in much effort to help make the place work. Or even just being toxic and destructive, as above.

        A lot more could be said and debated about the whole situation, but sites like Reddit, as draconian as they might be at times, and whatever their other flaws, have proven that they've been able to establish a system that works stably over the long haul.

        Me, I love the idea of the FV, and for that very reason have put in almost two years of hard work in to my own project on .ee, but I'm very unsure about the long-term healthy function of the Lemmysphere in particular. More specifically, trying to migrate my project to another instance before .ee shuts down would be a herculean task AFAIK, especially with my having significant new health issues recently.

        So, yeah. 😕

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        I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. I don't know shit about dick, but if there's some way a 10 yr sysadmin could do to help out, please let me help! I'm a big hoarder of data and don't believe information should be gatekept or lost if it can be saved.

        For posterity's sake, please don't abandon hope in keeping your labor of love alive!

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        • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD [email protected]

          Mastodon handles it pretty decently where it automatically gets your followers to follow your new account, there's no reason why communities/groups couldn't do the same thing

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          #67

          Individual users' follows are not very useful in the threadiverse compared to backlog of content.

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          • nokturne213@sopuli.xyzN [email protected]

            Iirc the request for donations was a repost from .ml the instance run by the devs of lemmy software, not a request by the admins of lemm.ee for support.

            lasers4eyes@piefed.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #68

            I think we're talking about different posts, here is the one I'm talking about: lemm.ee/post/63041344

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            • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

              cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

              Hey everyone

              We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

              What you need to know

              As of now:

              • New user registrations are disabled
              • Creating new communities is disabled

              What you should do:

              • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
              • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
              • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
              • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

              Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

              Why this is happening

              The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

              The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


              We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

              – lemm.ee team

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              wrote on last edited by
              #69

              Sucks, made a new account on world. The app i use defaults to .ee so thats why i chose it when i joined lemmy.

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              • demigodrick@lemmy.zipD [email protected]

                Ahh, this is really sad. Lemm.ee was always an instance that shined brightly, and @[email protected] has helped me out a couple of times.

                Sad day indeed.

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                #70

                This instance will live on. Definitely understand the burnout and hope @[email protected] and the other volunteers here stick around.

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                • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                  I don't think it has to be like that. We can discuss things while still being positive. Ideally discussions aren't about disagreements only, but understanding, seeing things from other's perspective, finding middle grounds and so on.

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                  wrote on last edited by [email protected]
                  #71

                  I agree on principal, but in reality it would feel like chatting to tech support or chatgpt.

                  Besides, bitter sweet, the bitter makes the sweet so much more sweeter.

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                  • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                    it could have been a cool free 4 all like in the good old internet times xD

                    theloweststone@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #72

                    Yeah sure its all fun and games until people start posting csam.

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                    • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                      I would hope that the users would not go immediately to lemmy.world, but rather other instances. But you may be right unfortunately

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                      #73

                      I went to world since thats what popped up the most in the all feed for .ee

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                      • lasers4eyes@piefed.socialL [email protected]

                        I think we're talking about different posts, here is the one I'm talking about: lemm.ee/post/63041344

                        sortekanin@feddit.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #74

                        No, that post is a request from the lemm.ee admins to donate to Lemmy, the software. Not to donate to lemm.ee. You're talking about the same post.

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                        • theloweststone@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                          Yeah sure its all fun and games until people start posting csam.

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                          #75

                          then block them with your user power. i dont see the problem?

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                          • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

                            cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

                            Hey everyone

                            We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

                            What you need to know

                            As of now:

                            • New user registrations are disabled
                            • Creating new communities is disabled

                            What you should do:

                            • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
                            • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
                            • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
                            • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

                            Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

                            Why this is happening

                            The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

                            The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


                            We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

                            – lemm.ee team

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #76

                            This is a massive loss for the Fediverse.

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                            • lasers4eyes@piefed.socialL [email protected]

                              Because a couple weeks ago, the lemm.ee crew made a post asking for donations and their comment section immediately went dumpster fire mode. Not saying they can't ask for donations, but I can imagine its very problematic considering that the lead developers themselves are very hateful, transphobic and have questionable political opinions.

                              You cannot possibly convice me that didn't somehow influence this decision to shutdown the instance. And if lemmy doesn't find a way to keep that stuff down we're def gonna see more instances shutting down.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #77

                              Because a couple weeks ago, the lemm.ee crew made a post asking for donations

                              They didn't, that was a post asking to donate to lemmy, the software.

                              You cannot possibly convice me that didn’t somehow influence this decision to shutdown the instance.

                              I can because it's completely irrelevant, and what stopped this instance seems to have nothing to do with the development, but rather to do with the amount of volunteers and their work load.

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                              • johnnyenzyme@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                                It really wasn't, sadly.

                                The site founder put in an incredible amount of work setting the place up (something like 10 support servers at US$200/mo), but also tried to be lead admin for a year+, and that's typically an extremely tough double-job to do well on a big, popular site / place. In his various posts he sometimes talked about all the vile content and destructive users the sub-admins had to deal with on an ongoing basis, and it certainly sounds like that burned out the whole volunteer staff in the end.

                                From my own POV, and something I noticed from the beginning here, is that in the wake of Reddit (and other places) treating its users as assets, it was important to grow a userbase across the Lemmysphere and Fediverse with a strong community spirit. To me that means more participation, more content-creation, and more willingness to be civil and cooperate. Not that these things didn't happen to a significant extent, but it seems like a lot of .ee users and visitors, while willing to hang out at the place, were moreso just willing to soak up the content without putting in much effort to help make the place work. Or even just being toxic and destructive, as above.

                                A lot more could be said and debated about the whole situation, but sites like Reddit, as draconian as they might be at times, and whatever their other flaws, have proven that they've been able to establish a system that works stably over the long haul.

                                Me, I love the idea of the FV, and for that very reason have put in almost two years of hard work in to my own project on .ee, but I'm very unsure about the long-term healthy function of the Lemmysphere in particular. More specifically, trying to migrate my project to another instance before .ee shuts down would be a herculean task AFAIK, especially with my having significant new health issues recently.

                                So, yeah. 😕

                                blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #78

                                More specifically, trying to migrate my project to another instance before .ee shuts down would be a herculean task AFAIK, especially with my having significant new health issues recently.

                                I can help with that, if needed. I'm going to have to migrate my own communities in the coming weeks, so I can help with yours too.

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                                • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                                  Yes, actually.

                                  Link? Just out of curiosity.

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                                  #79

                                  https://lemmy.ca/post/37365128

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                                  • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                                    then block them with your user power. i dont see the problem?

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                                    #80

                                    The problem, besides that just being gross, is that hosting csam is a very serious crime in most places. Leaving that unmoderated can very easily end with alphabet agencies from around the world shutting down lemmy instances.

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                                    • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                                      https://lemmy.ca/post/37365128

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                                      #81

                                      That's four months ago. Unfortunate that they didn't call for more urgent help after that. But I suppose it's too late now.

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                                      • rglullis@communick.newsR [email protected]

                                        Maybe we can take this as an opportunity to understand the importance of separating "instance for groups" and "instance for users"?

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                                        #82

                                        Doesn't really solve the issue, admins will all want to manage an instance for groups rather than instance for users as that would avoid much of the drama.

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                                        • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                                          My 2nd cake day was going to be a few days after shutdown 😞

                                          Lemm.ee was a fantastic instance, it will be greatly missed. Huge thanks to the admins and owner that made it happen for so long.

                                          A shame the communities will be lost in the transition, the movies/television communities are genuinely cursed. This is the 4th or 5th time people moved that community.

                                          I guess now would be a good time to give Piefed another shot. I love Lemmy and all, but new features have stalled for too long and I'm ready for some change.

                                          So long, lemm.ee

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                                          What are some good mobile clients for piefed?

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