Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.
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So why were they blocked.
they were blocked for supporting russia invasion of Ukraine.
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So a person that happens to be iving in a sanctioned country, makes them banned? Bullshit
yes, that is the purpose of sanction. to target the lowest rung of society for supporting and promoting the invasion of Ukraine.
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I think you’re a bit lost friend lol. Did you have some kind of point you wanted to make or?
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No, it's not right.
People on these forums have been conditioned to see the world through their fairytale-lens and nothing else, though.
A part of oppression is removing people's ability to fight back. Anyone who holds the average Russian responsible for the war is just playing into the hands of the cabal. It's like they never heard of Navalny, or any other Russian dissenters.
These people need our help. We shouldn't victim-blame them and say they need to topple a dictator all on their own.
Same goes for North Korea.
interviews of the locals have shown that the lowest rung of society in russia supports the war.
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It is the lowest rung that supports the russia invasion in ukraine.
Attacks against civilian targets are war crimes. When you do it through sanctions its OK.
I'm just asking that we are more honest about it. For example instead of putting sanctions on Venezuela we could have just done what Israel is doing to Gaza and gotten similar death toll.
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Men who want to be called women are perpetuating the idea that women should be a certain way.
If you actually knew any trans people you might realize that they are often the most gender-nonconforming people. But instead you've imagined this image of the misogynistic stereotype-driven trans woman rather tban bothered to observe material reality.
Sigh. It really never ends with you people.
The replies go on and on, and on and on. It's non-stop. It's incessant.
You brow-beat people until they leave because they have better things to do.
I had a retort, but I didn't bother sending it. There's just no point at this point. All I can do is block and move on.
Thanks for reinforcing my views.
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I guess not then lol. I’m sure you’ll get em next time.
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Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
I... don't follow. How does this make the Microsoft, Github, and USA look good? The policy here is absolutely stupid.
Me too. I presume half of the votes on this comment are upvotes because they only read the first half of it.
Can you please explain how you come to such a conclusion of your second half, OP? Like you saw, we really don't follow.
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This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.
Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
Moving off of GitHub is still good, even if you believe their reasoning behind their reasons is incorrect.
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Russian bots down voting you.
This is how sanctions work. Don't like it? Get your government to stop invading Ukraine.
Not a Russian bot. Diem voted it because GitHub is still a poor choice to host open source on nowadays. It's like someone saying "It's stupid that such and such switched to renewable energy instead of fossil fuels because they believe the world is flat. The world is not flat!" It's really missing the forest for the trees.
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I have nothing against Russian developers. But I do think they should be completely isolated and blocked from the outside world. That's the whole point of sanctions.
That makes sense when it harms business being done in that country, people’s opportunity to find jobs and stuff like that.
But blocking people from working for free on open source projects where there’s nothing to be gained is harming progress, not individuals or countries. That’s not what sanctions were made for.
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They don't - but at the same time it saves a ton of money on bandwidth
that is an extra plus feature i always wanted from a "smart" phone - offline maps. i spent money on some of those apps back when it was kicking off and a very few of them were actually helpful, like showing me actual USGS topo maps.
would not have helped me that much for survival on my Hawaiian big island fuckabout, because even the big island is not big enough to get truly lost. i tried!
eventually I went downhill on the volcano towards the ocean for a day or two until cell reception and called my girlfriend and told her I hit my head pretty hard and she should come get me.
still the maps would have been super interesting. also, Red River Gorge, and all the southwestern N. America desert.
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I’m sure there is a lot that the random developer who happened to be born in Russia can do about that.
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Russian bots down voting you.
This is how sanctions work. Don't like it? Get your government to stop invading Ukraine.
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interviews of the locals have shown that the lowest rung of society in russia supports the war.
If they say against the war they will be imprisoned
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Gitlab was created by a Ukrainian, and Microsoft is blocking Organic maps Russian developer due to sanctions due to war on ukraine, which is why what you're suggesting is pretty cursed
Ok then use CodeBerg or SourceHut.
Just anything that's not GitHub -
Boycott all US based services.
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why is Organic Street Maps better than the other ones, that claim to be Open Street Maps derived?
bandwidth is not disposable ya'll.
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Forgejo is in fact working on being decentralized, just like the underlying git structure is. There are some first federation things in there, but the full implementation is still pretty far out.
Git is decentralized itself... You don't even need forgejo to host your changes
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Analogies are fallacies. Instead of discussing the topic at hand, we now have to discuss how accurate or inaccurate your analogy is. It's not a 1:1 representation of the subject.
If you're seriously trying to say men can be women because of immigration, that really just shows how far gone you are and why you shouldn't be taken seriously by rational people.
Oh goodie, more censorship.
Funny how this started by me pointing out mods abusing their power should not be taken seriously.
We really aren't allowed to say "men aren't women," lol. Anyone who tries to even suggest it gets censored.
It's clear who has an agenda and is abusing their power to control a narrative.
