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Zelenskyy says no to any US minerals deal that might risk Ukraine’s EU bid

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      Awful lot of cards in this mans hand.

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        Awful lot of cards in this mans hand.

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        Have anyone figured out what game is being played though?

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          Have anyone figured out what game is being played though?

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          Idk, but he seems to be doing pretty well at it. He outplayed Trump, masterfully, who looks dumber by the day with his whole "you don't have the cards" trap he thought he laid with that press conference.

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            Selenskyj is quite smart.

            I suppose it's mostly a play for time though so trump, who will for sure drop him and all, can't do it right away without losing the wee bit of face trump has left.

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              Selenskyj is quite smart.

              I suppose it's mostly a play for time though so trump, who will for sure drop him and all, can't do it right away without losing the wee bit of face trump has left.

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              I'm not sure how long he long he can keep on doing that though. History is full of rulers who smart at first, but burnt out over the time, AFAIK. It doesn't seem sustainable psychologically.

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                Idk, but he seems to be doing pretty well at it. He outplayed Trump, masterfully, who looks dumber by the day with his whole "you don't have the cards" trap he thought he laid with that press conference.

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                Trump's holding all the cards? Must be a game of Uno.

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                  Selenskyj is quite smart.

                  I suppose it's mostly a play for time though so trump, who will for sure drop him and all, can't do it right away without losing the wee bit of face trump has left.

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                  Perhaps Trump still wants that Nobel peace prize too, since Obama got one. So if Zelensky could convince him that that's still possible, ideally, while Vance isn't in the room, that might be good.

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                    How this man hasn’t crumbled by the all the responsibility and pressure is beyond me.

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                      Jesus fuck.

                      EU + GB, can you please just buy enough time for the US to pull its head out its arse? We cannot let the blyats win.

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                        How this man hasn’t crumbled by the all the responsibility and pressure is beyond me.

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                        Superhuman.

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                          Fuck Trump and US, he shouldn't get ANY minerals at all. Why even Ukraine should be giving any minerals in the first place? It's the attacker that should be punished and not a victim, thus Russia should give minerals to the US if anything, NOT Ukraine.

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                            How this man hasn’t crumbled by the all the responsibility and pressure is beyond me.

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                            He probably has Ukraine's best psychologists and a team of specialists helping him

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                              Jesus fuck.

                              EU + GB, can you please just buy enough time for the US to pull its head out its arse? We cannot let the blyats win.

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                              I think most of us are coming to the realisation that America pulling its head out of its arse is not going to happen, and this is a permanent change.

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                                I think most of us are coming to the realisation that America pulling its head out of its arse is not going to happen, and this is a permanent change.

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                                I fully expect another civil war and when that happens we will need support from the international community, even if it's covert.

                                So please encourage your representatives to watch us with a close eye.

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                                  Trump's holding all the cards? Must be a game of Uno.

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                                  Quite the reverse-o that you just played!

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                                    I think most of us are coming to the realisation that America pulling its head out of its arse is not going to happen, and this is a permanent change.

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                                    We’ll have a strong indication one way or another in less than two years. I just heard a news broadcast of protesters at a republican town hall in Indiana, which is as backward a state as most republican strongholds. The Speaker of the House, mike Johnson, has asked that republicans not hold town halls for fear of what he calls “professional protesters”. Again, we are talking here about states that are home to vast swaths of degenerate cretins. They are the ones who are pissed off. The midterm elections may bring some sanity back to the USA. Dems need a simple majority in the house to stymie much of what the traitor cunt wishes to suffer upon us all.

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                                      Perhaps Trump still wants that Nobel peace prize too, since Obama got one. So if Zelensky could convince him that that's still possible, ideally, while Vance isn't in the room, that might be good.

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                                      The play here, IMO, is to use the British royal family to fool the moron traitor into thinking that they’ll lobby for his peace prize if he can stall the blyats. Sell him some bullshit like “oh yeah, that Swedish guy who gives out Nobels is my cousin - you know how it works here in Europe - and I know that he has next year’s Nobel selected already, but that wanker owes me a favor and I can get you the prize in 2027…”

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                                        We’ll have a strong indication one way or another in less than two years. I just heard a news broadcast of protesters at a republican town hall in Indiana, which is as backward a state as most republican strongholds. The Speaker of the House, mike Johnson, has asked that republicans not hold town halls for fear of what he calls “professional protesters”. Again, we are talking here about states that are home to vast swaths of degenerate cretins. They are the ones who are pissed off. The midterm elections may bring some sanity back to the USA. Dems need a simple majority in the house to stymie much of what the traitor cunt wishes to suffer upon us all.

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                                        I hope it works out as you say; however, I can't help but think the situation is much worse than that and it will be difficult to recover normality even if the dems win the midterms and resist trump for the rest of his term.

                                        From an outside perspective it seems like people knew what trump was like in the first term, had some time to reflect on it, and then decided they wanted another hit. The kind of propaganda he used to win is incredibly corrosive but apparently it works, and certain oligarchs have thrown their weight behind it to maintain their power. AI and deregulated social media is going to make it easier for bad actors (both foreign and within your own country) to pump it out at scale, using more sophisticated and targeted methods. I can't see regulators controlling it given what your political culture is like, and how powerful the tech lobby is.

                                        If your country is so fractious that you get one term for each party repeatedly, the republicans will win, because it's so much quicker to break things than it is to fix them.

                                        In Europe we need alternatives to American tech and weapons systems in case this trend away from democratic norms and rules based international order continues.

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                                          He probably has Ukraine's best psychologists and a team of specialists helping him

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                                          I don't think he has the time to consult psychologists tbh

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