'An Insult To Life Itself': Hayao Miyazaki’s AI Criticism Resurfaces As OpenAI’s Ghibli-Style Image Trend Takes Over Social Media
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Reminds me of how millennials and generations onward have learned less and less maintainence skills to the point where most of us can't sow or fix shit if it's broken because we grew up in a consumer culture where you just buy a new one when the old one breaks. The quality of products have decreased too so they break quicker which gives people incentive to buy a new one instead of fixing.
My parents generation hold on to old items and they patch up their clothes and know how to fix shit around the house but they didn't teach me any of that because the culture shifted and it wasn't really needed.
We are not only losing skills and tactile learning and understanding, we are also rapidly torpedoing out planet into a massive trash heap. Which is a bit of a duh, I know, but still.
millennials and generations onward have learned less and less maintainence skills to the point where most of us can’t sow or fix shit if it’s broken because we grew up in a consumer culture where you just buy a new one when the old one breaks
Planned Obselecence means a lot of modern consumer goods are deliberately designed to be difficult to repair.
More cheap plastic used for buckles and clasps. More glue used in place of screws or latches. More electronics soddered or otherwise made irreplaceable/inaccessible to an amateur. Shoes, in particular, leap to mind. Shoe repair used to be a standard dry cleaning service. It's practically extinct today. Very few good ways to repair a modem sneaker.
My parents generation hold on to old items and they patch up their clothes and know how to fix shit around the house but they didn’t teach me any of that because the culture shifted and it wasn’t really needed.
There's a time cost to repair and maintenance that's often frustrating. I don't blame folks for opting towards convenience. But I feel horrible every time I take out the trash, knowing how much plastic waste I accrue every month.
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"The best art is the one created by people who get no recognition for it"
Do you also believe the best houses are built by people who have no training in how to build them?
"Stop paying artists and people will keep creating"
They will, they won't be able to spend the time required to become masters at it unless they're already rich enough not to have to spend time working. It's also the same thing here, let's stop paying plumbers, people who like doing plumbing will just continue doing it. Let's stop paying garbage people, someone will keep doing it because they like it... Oh wait, no they won't.
https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project
People deserve a form of compensation for their work if we want to live in functioning societies. If we go back to living in small tribes then sure, people will just do what they must without compensation because it's required to survive, but then human population would be in the millions instead of billions and we wouldn't be here to talk about it because the technology wouldn't exist anymore.
They are compensated. But they didn't be compensated if their work is used to train AI.
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They are compensated. But they didn't be compensated if their work is used to train AI.
And that's the problem right there
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That's not really relevant to the discussion. The number of users doesn't matter. The point is that people will still create things even if there's no money in doing it.
Jellyfin is another example of something I use every day that is completely developed for free. The is no difference whether 100 people or 100 million people use it. It exists because the people who built it want it to exist.
It is relevant, free development/services is nice and all, but when you're spending all your time doing it at some point you still need to eat and that requires money so what do you do? You either give up on the free stuff or reduce the amount of time you spend doing it so you can find a job meaning you lose practice and aren't at good at it.
I'm sorry to tell you but the people who are the best at what they do don't do it for free, the reason they're the best is that they can afford to do it full time because they make a living off it.
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While I agree that it's not appropriate, that woman was a drug dealer who returned illegally into the USA - I will shed no tear for her.
She is still a human beeing that deserves not to be made fun of like this.
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There'd be no need for drug dealers if drugs were decriminalized, like in other progressive Nations.
Yeah lemme go to my local fentanyl shop. Because she trafficked fentanyl.
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And that's the problem right there
It's not a problem. Unless the AI is recreating their work and selling it themselves then there's no issue with training on it
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If we didn't have copyright then people wouldn't be able to justify putting effort into creating content because they wouldn't be guaranteed financial compensation for the time and effort they put in.
Everything costs money, If I'm writing a novel I still have to pay the bills I still have to buy groceries I still have to pay for water and electricity I need to be compensated for my time.
You are literally typing on Lemmy. How much did you pay to use this? See any ads around?
Open souce devs would strongly disagree with this.
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Ya. These are the same people that continually try to take down Team Four Star for their satirization of DBZ because it made is actually better in many ways, from a country that has some of the worst satire and free use laws in the world.
Creators of copyrighted material in Japan can literally sue someone from making fun of their material.
Pardon me if I don't take their crocodile tears seriously.
i hate how brainwashed westerners are. will go on a diatribe about the importance of free speech and then rabidly defend copyright as if it isn’t directly contrary to the idea of freedom of information, all in the same breath.
inb4 that’s a description of every reply to this comment.
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It is relevant, free development/services is nice and all, but when you're spending all your time doing it at some point you still need to eat and that requires money so what do you do? You either give up on the free stuff or reduce the amount of time you spend doing it so you can find a job meaning you lose practice and aren't at good at it.
I'm sorry to tell you but the people who are the best at what they do don't do it for free, the reason they're the best is that they can afford to do it full time because they make a living off it.
Most open source devs make good money as software engineers and devlop FOSS in their free time.
You are conflating having basic needs met with needing compensation. People dont need to be compensated finacially if their needs are already met.
So I think you really might mean "People with unmet needs can't work for free"
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It's not a problem. Unless the AI is recreating their work and selling it themselves then there's no issue with training on it
You'll keep saying that until you end up jobless because a computer can accomplish your tasks in a good enough way, not as well as you, just well enough, then because it suddenly affects you you'll be angry about it.
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i hate how brainwashed westerners are. will go on a diatribe about the importance of free speech and then rabidly defend copyright as if it isn’t directly contrary to the idea of freedom of information, all in the same breath.
inb4 that’s a description of every reply to this comment.
I mean it checks, the idea of property and owning it is more important than anything else. The entire economic system is based around that. It makes sense that something that is free in action and in cost isn't welcomed in such a money driven society.
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You'll keep saying that until you end up jobless because a computer can accomplish your tasks in a good enough way, not as well as you, just well enough, then because it suddenly affects you you'll be angry about it.
It does affect my job. And no I won't end up jobless. My job will change and I'll adapt.
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Yeah lemme go to my local fentanyl shop. Because she trafficked fentanyl.
And? Plenty of countries where that's not an issue, or at worse she'd get either a fine or medical counseling on addiction for a couple days https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-that-have-decriminalized-drugs.html
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It does affect my job. And no I won't end up jobless. My job will change and I'll adapt.
Again, until your boss feels he doesn't need you and can just rely on good enough shit regurgitated by AI.
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Lol forgot they call weed drug
forgot they call weed drug
Clearly you didn't, because weed is completely unrelated to this story. You saw the word 'drug' and assumed it must mean 'marijuana'.
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Ya. These are the same people that continually try to take down Team Four Star for their satirization of DBZ because it made is actually better in many ways, from a country that has some of the worst satire and free use laws in the world.
Creators of copyrighted material in Japan can literally sue someone from making fun of their material.
Pardon me if I don't take their crocodile tears seriously.
So pokemon has lèse-majesté protections ?
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I don't understand this post properly. Miyazaki critizes an the movement animation based on an AI model, not chatgpt's ghibli stuff?
The article isn't about the new animation but about how the old clip has resurfaced and is retreading its origin and how it relates to recent events.
Now coming back to Miyazaki’s thoughts on AI, a widely shared video from 2016 shows the legendary animator reacting with disgust to an AI-generated animation demo.
The animation in the clip reminded him about his friend's disability and how the creators of the animation didn't regard ableism while making it. Later in the clip, one of the creators had expressed that they would like to create a machine that could "draw pictures as humans do" and Miyazaki was depicted as displeased after this statement.
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While I agree that it's not appropriate, that woman was a drug dealer who returned illegally into the USA - I will shed no tear for her.
Still less criminal than the admistration so very shaky ground for this claim.
All current drug problens themselves were created by republicans who they invented the drug war in the 70s intentionally to curtail free speech of Vietnam war protesters.
The drug over criminalization created the environement that directly leads to fentanyl being an optimal border crossing narcotic.
Drug dealers are more respectable right now than all administration members combined, even the "illegal" ones.
All very dubious for the most powerful country in the world, which rapes the entire planet for mineral ressources to call any human "illegal".
I speak for all humans when I say, this planet would be a lot better without the memetic infections known as America, China, Europe, India, Russia.
Maybe if they all had a nuclear fireworks party the survivors would have the opportunity to learn not to build those monstrous egregores.
