'An Insult To Life Itself': Hayao Miyazaki’s AI Criticism Resurfaces As OpenAI’s Ghibli-Style Image Trend Takes Over Social Media
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And that's the problem right there
It's not a problem. Unless the AI is recreating their work and selling it themselves then there's no issue with training on it
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If we didn't have copyright then people wouldn't be able to justify putting effort into creating content because they wouldn't be guaranteed financial compensation for the time and effort they put in.
Everything costs money, If I'm writing a novel I still have to pay the bills I still have to buy groceries I still have to pay for water and electricity I need to be compensated for my time.
You are literally typing on Lemmy. How much did you pay to use this? See any ads around?
Open souce devs would strongly disagree with this.
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Ya. These are the same people that continually try to take down Team Four Star for their satirization of DBZ because it made is actually better in many ways, from a country that has some of the worst satire and free use laws in the world.
Creators of copyrighted material in Japan can literally sue someone from making fun of their material.
Pardon me if I don't take their crocodile tears seriously.
i hate how brainwashed westerners are. will go on a diatribe about the importance of free speech and then rabidly defend copyright as if it isn’t directly contrary to the idea of freedom of information, all in the same breath.
inb4 that’s a description of every reply to this comment.
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It is relevant, free development/services is nice and all, but when you're spending all your time doing it at some point you still need to eat and that requires money so what do you do? You either give up on the free stuff or reduce the amount of time you spend doing it so you can find a job meaning you lose practice and aren't at good at it.
I'm sorry to tell you but the people who are the best at what they do don't do it for free, the reason they're the best is that they can afford to do it full time because they make a living off it.
Most open source devs make good money as software engineers and devlop FOSS in their free time.
You are conflating having basic needs met with needing compensation. People dont need to be compensated finacially if their needs are already met.
So I think you really might mean "People with unmet needs can't work for free"
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It's not a problem. Unless the AI is recreating their work and selling it themselves then there's no issue with training on it
You'll keep saying that until you end up jobless because a computer can accomplish your tasks in a good enough way, not as well as you, just well enough, then because it suddenly affects you you'll be angry about it.
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i hate how brainwashed westerners are. will go on a diatribe about the importance of free speech and then rabidly defend copyright as if it isn’t directly contrary to the idea of freedom of information, all in the same breath.
inb4 that’s a description of every reply to this comment.
I mean it checks, the idea of property and owning it is more important than anything else. The entire economic system is based around that. It makes sense that something that is free in action and in cost isn't welcomed in such a money driven society.
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You'll keep saying that until you end up jobless because a computer can accomplish your tasks in a good enough way, not as well as you, just well enough, then because it suddenly affects you you'll be angry about it.
It does affect my job. And no I won't end up jobless. My job will change and I'll adapt.
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Yeah lemme go to my local fentanyl shop. Because she trafficked fentanyl.
And? Plenty of countries where that's not an issue, or at worse she'd get either a fine or medical counseling on addiction for a couple days https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-that-have-decriminalized-drugs.html
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It does affect my job. And no I won't end up jobless. My job will change and I'll adapt.
Again, until your boss feels he doesn't need you and can just rely on good enough shit regurgitated by AI.
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Lol forgot they call weed drug
forgot they call weed drug
Clearly you didn't, because weed is completely unrelated to this story. You saw the word 'drug' and assumed it must mean 'marijuana'.
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Ya. These are the same people that continually try to take down Team Four Star for their satirization of DBZ because it made is actually better in many ways, from a country that has some of the worst satire and free use laws in the world.
Creators of copyrighted material in Japan can literally sue someone from making fun of their material.
Pardon me if I don't take their crocodile tears seriously.
So pokemon has lèse-majesté protections ?
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I don't understand this post properly. Miyazaki critizes an the movement animation based on an AI model, not chatgpt's ghibli stuff?
The article isn't about the new animation but about how the old clip has resurfaced and is retreading its origin and how it relates to recent events.
Now coming back to Miyazaki’s thoughts on AI, a widely shared video from 2016 shows the legendary animator reacting with disgust to an AI-generated animation demo.
The animation in the clip reminded him about his friend's disability and how the creators of the animation didn't regard ableism while making it. Later in the clip, one of the creators had expressed that they would like to create a machine that could "draw pictures as humans do" and Miyazaki was depicted as displeased after this statement.
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While I agree that it's not appropriate, that woman was a drug dealer who returned illegally into the USA - I will shed no tear for her.
Still less criminal than the admistration so very shaky ground for this claim.
All current drug problens themselves were created by republicans who they invented the drug war in the 70s intentionally to curtail free speech of Vietnam war protesters.
The drug over criminalization created the environement that directly leads to fentanyl being an optimal border crossing narcotic.
Drug dealers are more respectable right now than all administration members combined, even the "illegal" ones.
All very dubious for the most powerful country in the world, which rapes the entire planet for mineral ressources to call any human "illegal".
I speak for all humans when I say, this planet would be a lot better without the memetic infections known as America, China, Europe, India, Russia.
Maybe if they all had a nuclear fireworks party the survivors would have the opportunity to learn not to build those monstrous egregores.
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While I agree that it's not appropriate, that woman was a drug dealer who returned illegally into the USA - I will shed no tear for her.
This isn't about her, specifically.
This is about the utter lack of humanity it illustrates.
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Bigoted against a tool that is going to change the industry and digital art, the same way computers did back in the day.
If you throw AI at your hand draw 20 frames per second you are going to get the smoothest film ever and that's just a stupid example. You can use AI for a thousand things already from the story boards to your final work.
a tool that is going to change the industry and digital art, the same way computers did back in the day.
This type of comparison makes no sense: with traditional art you have to put skill, knowledge and personality into your work, with digital art it's the same thing but with computers, with AI "art" you don't. You just ask the mighty machine what you want and it'll spit processed garbage heavily approximating what you asked for. You could try fixing the output yourself, but at that point it's no longer just AI, it becomes a mix of digital art and AI "art" with all the other problems the latter carries with it such as copyright, constant output reprocessing and especially energy consumption as making one crappy looking output takes way too much power for it to be viable in the long term.
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And? Plenty of countries where that's not an issue, or at worse she'd get either a fine or medical counseling on addiction for a couple days https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-that-have-decriminalized-drugs.html
I'm all for drug legalization. It's not legal, and trying to somehow justify someone coming to America to traffic in fentanyl, which is a straight up killer, is incredibly disingenuous. And Oregon decriminalized drugs and had to walk it back because it became a problem.
Like I said, I'm in favor of it, but that's not what we are dealing with. Someone who crosses a border to sell a deadly drug isn't out here to help people. And if some American rolls into Portugal and starts selling fentanyl, I can assure you it ends up in that person getting removed from Portugal.
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I don’t see mathematicians pitching a fit that lesser skilled people can use calculators to produce their results. I don’t understand the artists’ complaining that AI allows the lesser skilled people to produce an image of their ideas.
As always, the problem isn’t the tech. The problem is capitalism forcing people into competing with the tech.
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i hate how brainwashed westerners are. will go on a diatribe about the importance of free speech and then rabidly defend copyright as if it isn’t directly contrary to the idea of freedom of information, all in the same breath.
inb4 that’s a description of every reply to this comment.
I don't see an issue.
Let's say I write a book and it starts getting popular. A big publisher notices and makes a nicer looking book that's a direct copy and runs a marketing campaign and it goes viral. It turns into a movie, video game, and has tons of merch. The publisher makes tons of money and I get nothing.
Is that really the future you want?
Copyright grants a temporary monopoly on a work, and that's a good thing because it protects people from large corporations that have much more resources than them.
The problem with copyright is that it lasts too long, not that it exists. We need to cut copyright substantially (say, 10-20 years), but not throw it out altogether.
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Again, until your boss feels he doesn't need you and can just rely on good enough shit regurgitated by AI.
Again like I said earlier 'they'll take yer jobs' is more about spreading fear and panic. The panic is never truly justified.
The Jobs will change. Bosses will always try to get rid of employees in favour of profits. Immigrants, sorry I mean AI is not a big threat.
