'An Insult To Life Itself': Hayao Miyazaki’s AI Criticism Resurfaces As OpenAI’s Ghibli-Style Image Trend Takes Over Social Media
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I don’t see mathematicians pitching a fit that lesser skilled people can use calculators to produce their results. I don’t understand the artists’ complaining that AI allows the lesser skilled people to produce an image of their ideas.
As always, the problem isn’t the tech. The problem is capitalism forcing people into competing with the tech.
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i hate how brainwashed westerners are. will go on a diatribe about the importance of free speech and then rabidly defend copyright as if it isn’t directly contrary to the idea of freedom of information, all in the same breath.
inb4 that’s a description of every reply to this comment.
I don't see an issue.
Let's say I write a book and it starts getting popular. A big publisher notices and makes a nicer looking book that's a direct copy and runs a marketing campaign and it goes viral. It turns into a movie, video game, and has tons of merch. The publisher makes tons of money and I get nothing.
Is that really the future you want?
Copyright grants a temporary monopoly on a work, and that's a good thing because it protects people from large corporations that have much more resources than them.
The problem with copyright is that it lasts too long, not that it exists. We need to cut copyright substantially (say, 10-20 years), but not throw it out altogether.
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Again, until your boss feels he doesn't need you and can just rely on good enough shit regurgitated by AI.
Again like I said earlier 'they'll take yer jobs' is more about spreading fear and panic. The panic is never truly justified.
The Jobs will change. Bosses will always try to get rid of employees in favour of profits. Immigrants, sorry I mean AI is not a big threat.
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a tool that is going to change the industry and digital art, the same way computers did back in the day.
This type of comparison makes no sense: with traditional art you have to put skill, knowledge and personality into your work, with digital art it's the same thing but with computers, with AI "art" you don't. You just ask the mighty machine what you want and it'll spit processed garbage heavily approximating what you asked for. You could try fixing the output yourself, but at that point it's no longer just AI, it becomes a mix of digital art and AI "art" with all the other problems the latter carries with it such as copyright, constant output reprocessing and especially energy consumption as making one crappy looking output takes way too much power for it to be viable in the long term.
with traditional art you have to put skill, knowledge and personality into your work, with digital art it’s the same thing but with computers, with AI “art” you don’t.
I think many people here have a romantic view of how art is made and never tried AI image generators. Would you be able to tell apart an artist who use reference pictures and one who doesn't?
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I don’t see mathematicians pitching a fit that lesser skilled people can use calculators to produce their results. I don’t understand the artists’ complaining that AI allows the lesser skilled people to produce an image of their ideas.
As always, the problem isn’t the tech. The problem is capitalism forcing people into competing with the tech.
I don't think you have a good handle on what mathematicians do.
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There'd be no need for drug dealers if drugs were decriminalized, like in other progressive Nations.
like in other progressive Nations.
Show me a progressive nation that has decriminalized Fentanyl (which is what the woman was caught for last time).
If we're talking weed, I 100% agree - that should be decriminalized everywhere.
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Who's watching marvel movies for free, legally? Who's listening to RHCP's entire discography for free, legally?
Not the people training AI, they've been caught pirating their data multiple times.
No one is. That's exactly the point.
Llms aren't recreating copyrighted works. They're drawing inspiration if you will. No copyright is being infringed.
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i hate how brainwashed westerners are. will go on a diatribe about the importance of free speech and then rabidly defend copyright as if it isn’t directly contrary to the idea of freedom of information, all in the same breath.
inb4 that’s a description of every reply to this comment.
Pretty sure you don't understand the difference between copywrite and freedom of speech. But that's ok.
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And? Plenty of countries where that's not an issue, or at worse she'd get either a fine or medical counseling on addiction for a couple days https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-that-have-decriminalized-drugs.html
Which of those countries have decriminalized Fentanyl? I bet it's none of them.
Weed is fine, obviously.
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Which of those countries have decriminalized Fentanyl? I bet it's none of them.
Weed is fine, obviously.
What part of literally all drugs did you not get from the list at the bottom mentioning places like Portugal and Croatia?
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I'm all for drug legalization. It's not legal, and trying to somehow justify someone coming to America to traffic in fentanyl, which is a straight up killer, is incredibly disingenuous. And Oregon decriminalized drugs and had to walk it back because it became a problem.
Like I said, I'm in favor of it, but that's not what we are dealing with. Someone who crosses a border to sell a deadly drug isn't out here to help people. And if some American rolls into Portugal and starts selling fentanyl, I can assure you it ends up in that person getting removed from Portugal.
Fentanyl is a part of the category 'all drugs'. Some places like Uruguay have literally ZERO penalties for drug use recreationally, and they haven't defined limits on the amount for personal use on anything but Marijuana (40g) so the judge would have to decide if the woman was carrying a huge amount or if there was a possibility it was personal use. https://www.tni.org/en/publication/about-drug-law-reform-in-uruguay
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I don't think you have a good handle on what mathematicians do.
Nor what artists really do
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Again like I said earlier 'they'll take yer jobs' is more about spreading fear and panic. The panic is never truly justified.
The Jobs will change. Bosses will always try to get rid of employees in favour of profits. Immigrants, sorry I mean AI is not a big threat.
Dude, you're the one saying it's ok to replace paid artists with AI, you're the one saying it's able to do their job, you're the one saying that it can take people's job, you just don't feel concerned because you can't imagine you'll be the one being affected, you're the one sounding like a Trumpist "It's ok, it will only affect others!"
I'm done, this is idiotic.
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Dude, you're the one saying it's ok to replace paid artists with AI, you're the one saying it's able to do their job, you're the one saying that it can take people's job, you just don't feel concerned because you can't imagine you'll be the one being affected, you're the one sounding like a Trumpist "It's ok, it will only affect others!"
I'm done, this is idiotic.
I never said to replace them. I just don't care if they make a living. I prefer AI
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like in other progressive Nations.
Show me a progressive nation that has decriminalized Fentanyl (which is what the woman was caught for last time).
If we're talking weed, I 100% agree - that should be decriminalized everywhere.
I would argue that they're smuggling in fentanyl precisely because the less dangerous drugs are also illegal, so there's no oversight in making sure they're not laced with the cheaper fentanyl.
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I don’t see mathematicians pitching a fit that lesser skilled people can use calculators to produce their results. I don’t understand the artists’ complaining that AI allows the lesser skilled people to produce an image of their ideas.
As always, the problem isn’t the tech. The problem is capitalism forcing people into competing with the tech.
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Fentanyl is a part of the category 'all drugs'. Some places like Uruguay have literally ZERO penalties for drug use recreationally, and they haven't defined limits on the amount for personal use on anything but Marijuana (40g) so the judge would have to decide if the woman was carrying a huge amount or if there was a possibility it was personal use. https://www.tni.org/en/publication/about-drug-law-reform-in-uruguay
That's great. I'm glad and I would love for it to be the case here. Legalization can, at the very least, open up the doors to the glories of capitalism as far as industries to help people with drug addiction, and presumably we'd get the benefits of good clean drugs and all that.
None of that has to do with smuggling fentanyl into a foreign country and your (deserved) deportation afterwards. Also has nothing to do with an administration who thinks it's funny to post an AI generated image satirizing it. Both of those things are no-nos, in my uneducated opinion.
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I don’t see mathematicians pitching a fit that lesser skilled people can use calculators to produce their results. I don’t understand the artists’ complaining that AI allows the lesser skilled people to produce an image of their ideas.
As always, the problem isn’t the tech. The problem is capitalism forcing people into competing with the tech.
But art is also one of the most fundamental things everyone learns to do. Literal children learn to do art, and doodling is something everyone knows how to do.
Although I do think that the issue is exacerbated by the enthusiast-types who will tune a model on someone's work as a form of vengeance, and smugly brag about how they can have the computer crunch out something approximating their work.
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While I agree that it's not appropriate, that woman was a drug dealer who returned illegally into the USA - I will shed no tear for her.
You got a link for that? I'm not finding anything online linking Rumeysa Ozturk to anything related to drugs
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with traditional art you have to put skill, knowledge and personality into your work, with digital art it’s the same thing but with computers, with AI “art” you don’t.
I think many people here have a romantic view of how art is made and never tried AI image generators. Would you be able to tell apart an artist who use reference pictures and one who doesn't?
An artist using references doesn't just copy and paste, there's a whole process of understanding what they're looking at, their interpretation of it, of why it is like that and of how they can learn something new from it, things that AI generators cannot do. And the "romantic" part is essential because that's what art is about. You make art to transmit a message, an emotion, it isn't just about making something "pretty", that's something contemplated only by naive people who never made art or who don't understand it.
