'An Insult To Life Itself': Hayao Miyazaki’s AI Criticism Resurfaces As OpenAI’s Ghibli-Style Image Trend Takes Over Social Media
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So was it trained on his work without his approval?
Seems this is legal now. Keep this in mind, when the next video game decompilation project comes along because that's also machine-generated material based on copyrighted released media. That must be equally as legal now.
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Not an AI problem though. Perhaps AI will help some people understand that there are some big ass problems in our society.
Time for TheLuigiAI.
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It’s a good use for me. I work with children and the things I’ve “created” have been significantly better thanks to mid-journey.
Before that it was just generic clip art, now I can make really beautifully themed stuff that was both out of my skill range and price range.
The artists, would never get money from me since I’m not rich enough to afford it but the children benefit.
So we're teaching the children that only high level art is worthwhile and they shouldn't even try to make at themselves because they suck at it and you can just generate it. Cool.
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So we're teaching the children that only high level art is worthwhile and they shouldn't even try to make at themselves because they suck at it and you can just generate it. Cool.
Well I don’t teach art so… and they don’t even know
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An insult to life is working 12h a day japanese style for the industry. I'm aware that they do things differently at studio ghibli but at the end of the day they are a for profit company making billions like the rest. Labeling AI as an insult to life sound like much bigotism.
Tell me you've never seen a Studio Ghibli movie without telling me you've never seen a single Studio Ghibli movie. Literally every one of them contains some "advancing technology isn't necessarily a good thing and the old ways have value" message. If AI were in one of their movies, it's be a oozing black oil demon monstrosity spitting soot into the air.
It'd be like Banksy doing advertisement for Nestle. It's just so contrary to the message they put out.
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Uh huh, so your going to grow and hunt your own nutrients then I guess? Build your own shelter?
I guess you could do all that if you had the money to buy the required land for it, but then again if you had that kind of money you didn't need a job in the first place.
Zoom out man. They were being sarcastic.
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Life is hard when you dreamed of being a chèf but got popular with animation.
Yeah it sucks for him to have ended up creating works beloved by hundreds of millions and touched and changed lives
he could have made some steaks and shit but oh well
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The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard. The future looks more and more bleak.
I've never read or enjoyed any AI works so far, tbh.
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The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard. The future looks more and more bleak.
Say what you will about the soulessnes of AI imagery (I find it very dissapointing), but this new technology is going to take our jobs argument is incredibly tired boomer-speak that shows a lack of understanding of history and a lack of imagination.
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While AI is boosting productivity and is amazing, it also appeals to our worst inner instincts of giving in to authority and outsourcing and taking credit for others' work.
Nah AI is just garbo in general. Any productivity it gives has a noticible drop in quality and capabilities that result in net loss.
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So was it trained on his work without his approval?
Hopefully. It makes cool pictures.
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Not an AI problem though. Perhaps AI will help some people understand that there are some big ass problems in our society.
With big asses being one of them. Obesity and it's complications are getting out of control. I'm in favor of free glp-1 clinics and then free antidote clinics for whatever terrible blight the free glp-1 clinics unleash upon us in 5-10 years.
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Which the shareholders couldn't freaking care less. They only need to get super rich in their lifetime.
In theory they get super rich, but in practice the early adopters of AI seem to be hemoraging money as a result of it. It doesn't actually make the bare minimun content so they end up hiring humans to fix their bullshit and the end product is worse than just using humans.
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The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard. The future looks more and more bleak.
What if it allows other creative people to create newer works rather than these few people. Could spell a new Renaissance of creativity that didn't exist before. Lots of people have great stories to tell but lacked artistic ability or resources.
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Ironic since the decrease of human made work (art or software) will decrease the quality or diversity of generative AI itself
Artist will no longer exist as a species
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Tell me you've never seen a Studio Ghibli movie without telling me you've never seen a single Studio Ghibli movie. Literally every one of them contains some "advancing technology isn't necessarily a good thing and the old ways have value" message. If AI were in one of their movies, it's be a oozing black oil demon monstrosity spitting soot into the air.
It'd be like Banksy doing advertisement for Nestle. It's just so contrary to the message they put out.
Where's the "advancing technology isn't necessarily a good thing and the old ways have value" message in Kiki's Delivery Service?
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It’s a good use for me. I work with children and the things I’ve “created” have been significantly better thanks to mid-journey.
Before that it was just generic clip art, now I can make really beautifully themed stuff that was both out of my skill range and price range.
The artists, would never get money from me since I’m not rich enough to afford it but the children benefit.
How do you define better? More photrealistic? I'd wager kids could learn as much if not more from your own hand-drawn chicken scratch that has a greater emphasis and less distractions on the points you want to convey. They might relate to the lack of conventional quality that they themselves aren't able to achieve as well. There is an incredible vapidness to AI art. Also it absolutely blows at trying to make anything diagrammatic for teaching. I've tried to use it to convey scientic topics that I'd normally use grant funds (back in the day when there were grants) to hire artists to do, and it was an exercise in purified frustration.
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Where's the "advancing technology isn't necessarily a good thing and the old ways have value" message in Kiki's Delivery Service?
A magical person delivering mail instead of a soulless automated machine? The value of human experience and interactions? I didn't say it was the core message, I said it was a message in all his movies. A "theme" or "motif", if you will.
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That should be the headline. Assuming it was done without consent, which lets face it, it most likely was.
The way Altman whines about how much he should be allowed to steal people's work to feed his bottom line, I have no doubt whatsoever that this is the case.
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The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard. The future looks more and more bleak.
The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard.
I would say that's a tangential problem. Because, you know, in theory...
But the deeper problem is ultimately in expertise as a learned skill developed over time and through practice. If you're de-skilling work, you're dismantling the tools by which we train the next generation of artists and production crews. If we were just replacing humans with machines for some route manual labor (like Pixar replaced Disney's old hand drawn animations with a newer CGI look), the result would be a new style and perhaps less tendentious from route reproductions.
But we're gutting the whole process of development which means you're losing the pool of skilled professionals who know how to create CGI (or even flip-book style 60s animation) from first principles. That means sacrificing whole fields of specialized expertise for... what? This?
