'An Insult To Life Itself': Hayao Miyazaki’s AI Criticism Resurfaces As OpenAI’s Ghibli-Style Image Trend Takes Over Social Media
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You think you could?
I think the minute it gets popular the lawyers start getting paid
Ever hear of Avalanches? Their music is incredible and it's made entirely from samples, including some from well known artists such as the Beatles.
Though they are kind of the exception as their second album took 16 years to complete, in no small part due to asking permission for every sample.
But there's entire genres of music that either utilize samples, or are literally constructed completely from them.
Girl Talk is another one that comes to mind. It's pretty much entire albums full of mashups.
DJ Shadow is a legend who, I believe, only uses vinyl for sampling.
Hip hop would not have survived without sampling. Listen to Madlib and J Dilla. Check out Wu-Tang Clan and listen to some of RZA's beats.
Check out MF DOOM's producer alter ego (Metal Fingers). Dude put out an entire series of instrumental tracks made using samples called "Special Herbs," that both he and other hip hop artists have used for backing tracks.
Beastie Boys were one of the first to do it with Paul's Boutique.
I would bet that the majority of music that's out there that is sample-based has not been approved by the original owners of the pieces. They only really get targeted if it becomes popular, which is why Avalanches chose to go the route of getting approvals.
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The way Altman whines about how much he should be allowed to steal people's work to feed his bottom line, I have no doubt whatsoever that this is the case.
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The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard. The future looks more and more bleak.
This is why I still have a coal furnace to heat my house. So many people just use furnaces without thinking of the displaced economic value.
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What about the transition.
Because this will take time to happen, and the thing about not eating because you have literally no money, is it's a rather immediate concern. You can't just wait a decade or so for everyone to sort it out.
What about the transition.
It'll likely be a bloodsoaked mess, given the history of these things.
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A message about technology isn't the same as labeling AI as "an insult to life itself."
This guy simply sound like a bigot. His studio is going to rely on AI in any case through the software they are using. If they use photoshop they are already using AI.
I'm at such a loss for words having read such ignorance spouted as truth. You are truly a master sophist.
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That will only happen if a society completely is reorganized to get rid of money or if they introduce universal basic income (at a rate that actually allows people to live).
Realistically I can't see either of those things happening.
Just shifting the tax burden from salaries toward capital should make it less of a problem. When capital income is taxed less than salaries wealth concentration gets worse as workers are replaced.
But hey, GDP line goes up, so it must be good right?
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I don't care about copyrights. I care about content.
Better content?
Lol
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The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard.
I would say that's a tangential problem. Because, you know, in theory...
But the deeper problem is ultimately in expertise as a learned skill developed over time and through practice. If you're de-skilling work, you're dismantling the tools by which we train the next generation of artists and production crews. If we were just replacing humans with machines for some route manual labor (like Pixar replaced Disney's old hand drawn animations with a newer CGI look), the result would be a new style and perhaps less tendentious from route reproductions.
But we're gutting the whole process of development which means you're losing the pool of skilled professionals who know how to create CGI (or even flip-book style 60s animation) from first principles. That means sacrificing whole fields of specialized expertise for... what? This?
I've seen pretty much the same thing happening in the programming space. In another 10 years there's going to be a massive shortage of senior programmers who are capable of doing anything more complicated than the AI, and able to sort out the messes everyone's creating with it.
All the companies not wanting to hire entry level programmers right now is also a big problem for those starting now. I can only hope companies realize AI is not a replacement for a human's learning ability.
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"A real labor of love"
Christ. It's like people cosplaying as real artists.
I'm not sure Sam Altman even knows what labor is.
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Better content?
Lol
Lmao even.Absolutely. The Internet pre monetization was way better than anything today.
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Absolutely. The Internet pre monetization was way better than anything today.
I agree with this, but I don't think we'll ever be able to have that again. AI slop is drowning out all the genuine content regardless of monetization.
What's the incentive to put hours of effort into something if nobody will ever see it because every hour another 1000 AI versions were generated and they're all "close enough" to fool someone not paying attention? -
These people from the Silicon Valley see themselves as the saviours of mankind (look up Longtermism in Silicon Valley). Within their structure of believe anything is within reason as long as it serves the greater good. That includes anything from obviously breaking the law to outright genocide, which we see in action right now.
Of course since their moral code is already eroded to its core there are no boundaries, like "I shouldn't molest other people"…
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So was it trained on his work without his approval?
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If we didn't have copyright then people wouldn't be able to justify putting effort into creating content because they wouldn't be guaranteed financial compensation for the time and effort they put in.
The irony of saying this on Lemmy. Lemmy is piece of software developed and distributed for free to people who host it for free. If somebody truly wants to make something they will create it even without profit incentive.
Scale Lemmy to the size of Reddit and we'll see if good Samaritans are still willing to host it for free.
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I know what I want. I don't have to care that you think you should stand in the way of people creating new things. If they're not copying your work then it's not a problem. If they buy your book and use it to train an AI that is ethically fine. I don't support the growth of intellectual property laws.
And I don't buy for a second that the world is a better place with artists all fighting to be the next best seller or financially stable painter. The world will turn people will create and I'll argue until I day I die that the best content ever is the stuff nobody is looking to profit from. That's the stuff that is actually created from a place that's pure creativity
So the best books are the ones that never get published? The Best music is free on Soundcloud? The best movies are freely available on Peertube?
Your realize that in order to achieve greatness in a field it takes time, if artists can't live from their art because anyone is free to just make copy of it and to sell it and keep the profit to themselves then instead of making art they'll have to find another job instead.
You might believe that AI will replace them, but AI doesn't understand what it's doing it just regurgitates stuff until the person asking for it finds it good enough. It lacks the will to generate emotions in the viewer or listener.
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So the best books are the ones that never get published? The Best music is free on Soundcloud? The best movies are freely available on Peertube?
Your realize that in order to achieve greatness in a field it takes time, if artists can't live from their art because anyone is free to just make copy of it and to sell it and keep the profit to themselves then instead of making art they'll have to find another job instead.
You might believe that AI will replace them, but AI doesn't understand what it's doing it just regurgitates stuff until the person asking for it finds it good enough. It lacks the will to generate emotions in the viewer or listener.
Yea, I believe those are the best.
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Yea, I believe those are the best.
Bull fucking shit, you know as well as I do that your point doesn't make sense.
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Bull fucking shit, you know as well as I do that your point doesn't make sense.
My point makes sense. What doesn't make sense
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I know what I want. I don't have to care that you think you should stand in the way of people creating new things. If they're not copying your work then it's not a problem. If they buy your book and use it to train an AI that is ethically fine. I don't support the growth of intellectual property laws.
And I don't buy for a second that the world is a better place with artists all fighting to be the next best seller or financially stable painter. The world will turn people will create and I'll argue until I day I die that the best content ever is the stuff nobody is looking to profit from. That's the stuff that is actually created from a place that's pure creativity
It must be nice to go through the world and be so sure something so utterly stupid. Who cares about reality, I have FEELINGS.
Seriously no you've completely failed to listen to literally anything that I said. Give me an example of a novel that was Self-Published that is better than anything that was commercially available.
By definition anything that's good enough to make money makes money.
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The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard.
I would say that's a tangential problem. Because, you know, in theory...
But the deeper problem is ultimately in expertise as a learned skill developed over time and through practice. If you're de-skilling work, you're dismantling the tools by which we train the next generation of artists and production crews. If we were just replacing humans with machines for some route manual labor (like Pixar replaced Disney's old hand drawn animations with a newer CGI look), the result would be a new style and perhaps less tendentious from route reproductions.
But we're gutting the whole process of development which means you're losing the pool of skilled professionals who know how to create CGI (or even flip-book style 60s animation) from first principles. That means sacrificing whole fields of specialized expertise for... what? This?
Reminds me of how millennials and generations onward have learned less and less maintainence skills to the point where most of us can't sow or fix shit if it's broken because we grew up in a consumer culture where you just buy a new one when the old one breaks. The quality of products have decreased too so they break quicker which gives people incentive to buy a new one instead of fixing.
My parents generation hold on to old items and they patch up their clothes and know how to fix shit around the house but they didn't teach me any of that because the culture shifted and it wasn't really needed.
We are not only losing skills and tactile learning and understanding, we are also rapidly torpedoing out planet into a massive trash heap. Which is a bit of a duh, I know, but still.
