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Temperatures reach 46C in Spain as Europe heatwave continues

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  • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    Don't be silly, I bet your tits are absolutely banging now and would work great in a low cut sundress.

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    They're definitely bigger!

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    • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

      We cant link this unusual weather to Climate change.. but its unusual weather thats never been seen before at this frequency or ferocity. Its a mystery~!

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      man if only there was a way to link the changing climate to climate change

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      • helios@social.ggbox.frH [email protected]

        While it is hard to link individual extreme weather events to climate change, heatwaves are becoming more common and more intense due to climate change.

        Not that hard after all.

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        “It’s hard to link changes in climate to climate change”

        Is the author stupid?

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          A heatwave continues to grip large parts of Europe, with authorities in many countries issuing health warnings amid searing temperatures.

          Southern Spain is the worst-affected region, with temperatures in the mid-40s Celsius recorded in Seville and neighbouring areas.

          A new heat record for June of 46C was set on Saturday in the town of El Granado, according to Spain's national weather service, which also said this month is on track to be the hottest June on record.

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          The Spanish roulette is not having a siesta.

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          • helios@social.ggbox.frH [email protected]

            While it is hard to link individual extreme weather events to climate change, heatwaves are becoming more common and more intense due to climate change.

            Not that hard after all.

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            From a scientific point of view this is correct, the climate system is too complex to say this particular event is due to climate change. Exceptional events happened in the past too. So you can only draw conclusions from larger statistics. What's solid science is the increasing averages, increasing frequencies of extreme events etc. If it was scientifically informed, that's what this kind of sentence mean.

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              A heatwave continues to grip large parts of Europe, with authorities in many countries issuing health warnings amid searing temperatures.

              Southern Spain is the worst-affected region, with temperatures in the mid-40s Celsius recorded in Seville and neighbouring areas.

              A new heat record for June of 46C was set on Saturday in the town of El Granado, according to Spain's national weather service, which also said this month is on track to be the hottest June on record.

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              I had to convert from Common to Freedom for this one. Are y'all ok over there? I'm used to that kind of heat here in the desert but goodness I couldn't imagine 115f near the coast y'all must be dying 😬

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                We're very aware in the UK but it's not too easy. We have some the oldest housing stock in the world. We don't have central air with no real way to retrofit so it would have to be one room at a time. Our windows aren't designed to house those units I see in NY. We have to rely on very inefficient portable units so I only use it on the really hot days. Energy prices are still high after Russia's invasion. People are adding proper units when extending but only the rich can really afford that.

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                Split heat pumps are very common in Southern Europe. Modern units have insane efficiency, in the order of 4 units of heat or cold per unit of energy expended, and can be installed almost anywhere, in contrast to central units. The only downside is that they don't provide hot water.

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                  I had to convert from Common to Freedom for this one. Are y'all ok over there? I'm used to that kind of heat here in the desert but goodness I couldn't imagine 115f near the coast y'all must be dying 😬

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                  #114

                  The south of spain usually has dry air, it's at 12% right now.

                  But even in germany it's okay because it hasn't really rained that much this year (yay climate change), so it's hot but bearable. It's 31°C with "only" 45% right now.

                  We will get 37°C the next days, so I might change my stance.

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                  • regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    Shame I'm a fat old guy now. A few decades back I looked great in a Laura Ashley summer dress.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      Wow, joined 5 hours ago, already half the comments removed, and the rest full of hatespeech. Go outside, drink a beer or sth and calm down, bot.

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                      #116

                      You bring up a good point.

                      After reading some of the stuff Russia has pulled off (like the fake green protestors slashing tires in the UK that were found out to be Russians part of a wider disinfo campaign), I wouldn't be surprised if they're actually one of those false actors created to keep left wing politics and policy unpopular.

                      If not, they're certainly carrying the water for them completely.

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                        I had to convert from Common to Freedom for this one. Are y'all ok over there? I'm used to that kind of heat here in the desert but goodness I couldn't imagine 115f near the coast y'all must be dying 😬

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                        Are y'all ok over there?

                        No, not really, with humidity and no aircon anything over the high 90s starts to get pretty unpleasant, especially when it goes on for days and doesn't cool down properly at night, so you can't cool your house down.

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                        • helios@social.ggbox.frH [email protected]

                          While it is hard to link individual extreme weather events to climate change, heatwaves are becoming more common and more intense due to climate change.

                          Not that hard after all.

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                          That sentence perfectly states the difficulty though. The trend: easy to link. One individual event: not that easy.

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                            “It’s hard to link changes in climate to climate change”

                            Is the author stupid?

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                            No, individual extreme events are not "changes in climate". It's easy to say that the rise in heatwaves is caused by climate change but it's much harder to prove that this specific individual heatwave would never have happened were it not for climate change.

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                              A heatwave continues to grip large parts of Europe, with authorities in many countries issuing health warnings amid searing temperatures.

                              Southern Spain is the worst-affected region, with temperatures in the mid-40s Celsius recorded in Seville and neighbouring areas.

                              A new heat record for June of 46C was set on Saturday in the town of El Granado, according to Spain's national weather service, which also said this month is on track to be the hottest June on record.

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                              Have they considered spending 5% of their GDP on weapons? That will surely save humanity.

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                                As this keeps happening I continue to wonder when Europe and the UK will finally realize how badly they need to air conditioning. The units are (or were in the past year or 3)b way more expensive there than here in America. I dunno about current costs. It's worth it though, even if you only need it for like 1 month out of the year.

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                                How badly we need AC?

                                How about “how badly we need to get our shit together to stop human caused climate change”?

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                                  No, individual extreme events are not "changes in climate". It's easy to say that the rise in heatwaves is caused by climate change but it's much harder to prove that this specific individual heatwave would never have happened were it not for climate change.

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                                  The average global temperature has been rising steadily with greenhouse gas emissions, for over 50 years, but sure we’ll just ignore that and say it’s impossible to know.

                                  We only have the one planet, sometimes you can’t get multiple data sets. But you can certainly study the things that are happening and make predictions based on that.

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                                    No worries guys this is just a normal summer day climate change isnt real, enjoy the sun

                                    /s in case it isnt clear

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                                    The new talking point is that man made climate change is real but burning oil isn't causing the world to warm. But that does mean we can geoengineer our climate to be cooler. 🙃

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                                      The average global temperature has been rising steadily with greenhouse gas emissions, for over 50 years, but sure we’ll just ignore that and say it’s impossible to know.

                                      We only have the one planet, sometimes you can’t get multiple data sets. But you can certainly study the things that are happening and make predictions based on that.

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                                      No, you're missing the point. We have conclusively "linked changes in climate to climate change" as your comment eloquently put it. That's not really up for debate. But weather systems are extremely complex and extreme events have always occurred. So you can't say that this one specific heatwave is caused only because of this trend.

                                      When it comes to the urgency of doing something about it, that doesn't matter. It's absolutely sufficient to say "this type of event will occur increasingly often" to establish that it is an existential crisis. You don't have to be able to prove anything at all about this one very hot week in order to say that it is probably the single most important issue for us to tackle (along with the politics that prevent us from doing that).

                                      But we don't have the science and statistics to generally link individual events to a trend in isolation, and we shouldn't misrepresent the science that way.

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                                      • oce@jlai.luO [email protected]

                                        From a scientific point of view this is correct, the climate system is too complex to say this particular event is due to climate change. Exceptional events happened in the past too. So you can only draw conclusions from larger statistics. What's solid science is the increasing averages, increasing frequencies of extreme events etc. If it was scientifically informed, that's what this kind of sentence mean.

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                                        Scientists do actually make attempts to investigate the contribution of the trends to specific events, it's called extreme event attribution, but it is a very young field and the error bars on everything are still huge. That said,

                                        The American Meteorological Society stated in 2016 that "the science has now advanced to the point that we can detect the effects of climate change on some events with high confidence". [12]

                                        But the quote from the article was strictly correct in saying "it's hard".

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                                          A heatwave continues to grip large parts of Europe, with authorities in many countries issuing health warnings amid searing temperatures.

                                          Southern Spain is the worst-affected region, with temperatures in the mid-40s Celsius recorded in Seville and neighbouring areas.

                                          A new heat record for June of 46C was set on Saturday in the town of El Granado, according to Spain's national weather service, which also said this month is on track to be the hottest June on record.

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                                          heatwave

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