Temperatures reach 46C in Spain as Europe heatwave continues
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My living room is around 36 square meters and the cheapest AC unit for that area was 650 - 850 euros. You also have to pay a certified company to install it, which cost another 200 - 300 euros.
The median salary is like 900 euros, which makes it out of reach for a large portion of the population.
Is the median living room 36 square meters? Seems unfair to compare median salary with a rather big house/apartment.
Growing up our dining/living room was 24m2 and I could be cooled with a 200 euro portable AC.
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A heatwave continues to grip large parts of Europe, with authorities in many countries issuing health warnings amid searing temperatures.
Southern Spain is the worst-affected region, with temperatures in the mid-40s Celsius recorded in Seville and neighbouring areas.
A new heat record for June of 46C was set on Saturday in the town of El Granado, according to Spain's national weather service, which also said this month is on track to be the hottest June on record.
When do we start shoving the people responsible into prisons? The airlines, car, weapon manufacturers,...
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Across the Mediterranean to the south and east it is even hotter. Wearing shorts and putting on sunblock isn't the best way to deal with the heat, you need to shield yourself and make use of the chimney effect.
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The best way to deal with the heat would be physical retaliation against those because of whom we are in this whole mess
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As this keeps happening I continue to wonder when Europe and the UK will finally realize how badly they need to air conditioning. The units are (or were in the past year or 3)b way more expensive there than here in America. I dunno about current costs. It's worth it though, even if you only need it for like 1 month out of the year.
Ah yes what we need is to burn even more energy /s
We're doomed because of idiots like you lmao. How does it feel knowing you're responsible for the end of humanity?
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When do we start shoving the people responsible into prisons? The airlines, car, weapon manufacturers,...
When we stop voting out politicians that try to add a carbon tax.
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As this keeps happening I continue to wonder when Europe and the UK will finally realize how badly they need to air conditioning. The units are (or were in the past year or 3)b way more expensive there than here in America. I dunno about current costs. It's worth it though, even if you only need it for like 1 month out of the year.
I live in Spain, and since temperatures are now reaching 39°C in my area, I ordered two AC units for the most used rooms in my house (living room and bedroom).
With installation it costed 1300€. A months salary basically. In my area the cheapest unit with installation was 450€, but it didn't look very reliable.
I ordered it 11 days ago, and I'm scheduled to receive it and installed either this week or the next. AC installers are oversaturated with orders this time of the year. It's insane.
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Is the median living room 36 square meters? Seems unfair to compare median salary with a rather big house/apartment.
Growing up our dining/living room was 24m2 and I could be cooled with a 200 euro portable AC.
Fair point.
We also have a 20 square meter study where we installed AC. The unit cost around 550 euros and installation was like 70 euros cheaper. Total cost was cheaper but still hard for a median family to support.
Most families use some sort of fan or cooling column but they are quite lackluster and only work in summer.
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There is still snow somewhere on earth, everything is fine!
- a politician somewhere
Lets all fly with our private jets to venice for a wedding!
oh also you cant use plastic straws cause its bad for the environment.
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Ah yes what we need is to burn even more energy /s
We're doomed because of idiots like you lmao. How does it feel knowing you're responsible for the end of humanity?
You're using a phone, which not only uses energy and petrochemicals to make but sometimes even slave labor.
"We're doomed because of idiots like you lmao. How does it feel knowing you're responsible for the end of humanity?"
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You're using a phone, which not only uses energy and petrochemicals to make but sometimes even slave labor.
"We're doomed because of idiots like you lmao. How does it feel knowing you're responsible for the end of humanity?"
I use a second hand phone from 8 years ago specifically because I can repair it. You take planes . I don't. You drive. I don't. You have AC. I don't.
So shut the fuck up. Americans fatzos are the one killing the planet .
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They are trying to push people to heat pumps (basically air conditioners tech wise)
They are also moving towards building/efficiency regs that require completely sealed houses and forced air systems in new builds.
So new houses will effectively be required/encouraged to have an air con capable houses.
The old housing stock though? Oof. I'm on a private estate that even bans that kind of stuff!
You can get a grant to install heat pumps, but ONLY if they can't be reversed and used as air conditioning.
Also, I'm keeping my combi-boiler until they literally stop pumping gas to homes. Fuck water tanks.
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As this keeps happening I continue to wonder when Europe and the UK will finally realize how badly they need to air conditioning. The units are (or were in the past year or 3)b way more expensive there than here in America. I dunno about current costs. It's worth it though, even if you only need it for like 1 month out of the year.
Europe and the UK
You can just say Europe.
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I use a second hand phone from 8 years ago specifically because I can repair it. You take planes . I don't. You drive. I don't. You have AC. I don't.
So shut the fuck up. Americans fatzos are the one killing the planet .
wrote last edited by [email protected]- You're the guy in the well. That's why I quoted you.
And 2:
•I also used a second hand phone until it couldn't be repaired anymore.
•I avoid taking planes but very rarely, maybe every 4-5 years take one because even by plane my family lives about 20 hours away, since people still want me to visit them, which I'm getting the feeling might not be your case.
•Don't drive, don't even have the train or electric bus much, since I can walk/bike most everywhere I need.
•Don't have A/C
•I live in Finland
•This whole posting and thread is about Spain, not the USA, so presumably most people talking about installing an A/C are in Spain or the EU, which makes sense since it seems nearly all of the USA has A/C already.
- Since you're keen on purity tests, even the potential detriment of people's health, it's fair to call out your hypocrisy. You probably still have polyester clothes, use plastics of some sort, have a computer, etc. Hence why you're the guy in the well. To the point I was going to use that comic as my original post.
Then again, you're a baby account made today meaning you've probably already been banned somewhere multiple times before for simply being an unlikeable asshole and this is a new alt for you.
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In France the government is helping people get Aircon by subsidising heatpumps, also way more carbon efficient than Gaz or fioul based central heating.
How does this subsidy work? Asking for my dad, who lives in France.
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- You're the guy in the well. That's why I quoted you.
And 2:
•I also used a second hand phone until it couldn't be repaired anymore.
•I avoid taking planes but very rarely, maybe every 4-5 years take one because even by plane my family lives about 20 hours away, since people still want me to visit them, which I'm getting the feeling might not be your case.
•Don't drive, don't even have the train or electric bus much, since I can walk/bike most everywhere I need.
•Don't have A/C
•I live in Finland
•This whole posting and thread is about Spain, not the USA, so presumably most people talking about installing an A/C are in Spain or the EU, which makes sense since it seems nearly all of the USA has A/C already.
- Since you're keen on purity tests, even the potential detriment of people's health, it's fair to call out your hypocrisy. You probably still have polyester clothes, use plastics of some sort, have a computer, etc. Hence why you're the guy in the well. To the point I was going to use that comic as my original post.
Then again, you're a baby account made today meaning you've probably already been banned somewhere multiple times before for simply being an unlikeable asshole and this is a new alt for you.
I'm not the guy in the well you fkn retard you're the one advocating for MORE consumption and then you attack me because I have t-shirts. Fucking idiot
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- You're the guy in the well. That's why I quoted you.
And 2:
•I also used a second hand phone until it couldn't be repaired anymore.
•I avoid taking planes but very rarely, maybe every 4-5 years take one because even by plane my family lives about 20 hours away, since people still want me to visit them, which I'm getting the feeling might not be your case.
•Don't drive, don't even have the train or electric bus much, since I can walk/bike most everywhere I need.
•Don't have A/C
•I live in Finland
•This whole posting and thread is about Spain, not the USA, so presumably most people talking about installing an A/C are in Spain or the EU, which makes sense since it seems nearly all of the USA has A/C already.
- Since you're keen on purity tests, even the potential detriment of people's health, it's fair to call out your hypocrisy. You probably still have polyester clothes, use plastics of some sort, have a computer, etc. Hence why you're the guy in the well. To the point I was going to use that comic as my original post.
Then again, you're a baby account made today meaning you've probably already been banned somewhere multiple times before for simply being an unlikeable asshole and this is a new alt for you.
Yeah because a bunch of neckbeard genocide apologists on lemmy is my target demographic lmao
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You can get a grant to install heat pumps, but ONLY if they can't be reversed and used as air conditioning.
Also, I'm keeping my combi-boiler until they literally stop pumping gas to homes. Fuck water tanks.
I guess that's to stop people from using it to get air-con when it's mean to help people move away from gas. A bit silly though.
.....I suspect there are a few models that only need 1 part switched for it to be possible....
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Ah yes what we need is to burn even more energy /s
We're doomed because of idiots like you lmao. How does it feel knowing you're responsible for the end of humanity?
If it's green energy it's not really a huge problem.
Put some solar panels up too and you're golden.
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I'm not the guy in the well you fkn retard you're the one advocating for MORE consumption and then you attack me because I have t-shirts. Fucking idiot
wrote last edited by [email protected]I should add a point 4:
You're a privileged commentariat who lives somewhere that hasn't been hit so hard by climate change yet to the point where A/C is needed for health reasons, and you lack the self awareness to know of that. That's why you're the person in the well.
You didn't offer the person who needs A/C a better solution, like a heat pump; you didn't ask if they use renewable energy (I don't know of Spain but here in Finland we can pick what energy company we use, and me and my wife have one that is 100% renewable/nuclear); you assumed they weren't from the EU.
That's why you're the person in the well. You never offered or discussed potential ways to improve things, or even if they need the A/C; you merely criticized someone who exists in society for partaking in society ie trying to survive the heat waves.
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If it's green energy it's not really a huge problem.
Put some solar panels up too and you're golden.
Ah yes green energies are gonna save us.
Anything but do away from the idea that we can just burn more juice to solve every of our problem innit?
