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  • N [email protected]

    What's easier in Windows compared to Linux? Except the fact that you have to install it, since it doesn't come preinstalled on as many PCs. But many people who think Windows is easy would probably still consider installing it difficult.

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    Doing anything requires the memorization of thousands of commands that must be formatted perfectly and are specific to your distribution, into a black box that rarely provides any feedback at all, and when it does it's extremely generic.

    I'm sure my inbox will be blown up by delusional people claiming you don't need it but it's just not true.

    The simple act of installing software is crazy complicated and different on every distro.

    My current distro has 2 separate system update apps and I don't really know how to use either of them, nor do I understand why I need to use them at all. Why does the system need me to click buttons to make it go? Just do it in the background. Then as soon as it's done I get another popup 3 minutes later saying another package needs to be updated.

    Hardware compatibility is a huge problem, fingerprint readers, WiFi, facial recognition, Bluetooth, etc. etc. Very few companies make computers with Linux compatibility being considered at all. Everything will have drivers day 1 on Windows and then they'll trickle down to Linux a year or two later.

    Nvidia GPUs are by far and away the most popular and they're still very painful to use. And even though that's entirely Nvidia's fault, the problem remains.

    I dislike Linux the least but there's no way I could recommend it to anyone who isn't a giant nerd who likes fixing computers.

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    • M [email protected]

      I would rather be set on fire and have it put out with shovel than use a mac.

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      MacOS isn't terrible, only the hardware is.

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      • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

        Doing anything requires the memorization of thousands of commands that must be formatted perfectly and are specific to your distribution, into a black box that rarely provides any feedback at all, and when it does it's extremely generic.

        I'm sure my inbox will be blown up by delusional people claiming you don't need it but it's just not true.

        The simple act of installing software is crazy complicated and different on every distro.

        My current distro has 2 separate system update apps and I don't really know how to use either of them, nor do I understand why I need to use them at all. Why does the system need me to click buttons to make it go? Just do it in the background. Then as soon as it's done I get another popup 3 minutes later saying another package needs to be updated.

        Hardware compatibility is a huge problem, fingerprint readers, WiFi, facial recognition, Bluetooth, etc. etc. Very few companies make computers with Linux compatibility being considered at all. Everything will have drivers day 1 on Windows and then they'll trickle down to Linux a year or two later.

        Nvidia GPUs are by far and away the most popular and they're still very painful to use. And even though that's entirely Nvidia's fault, the problem remains.

        I dislike Linux the least but there's no way I could recommend it to anyone who isn't a giant nerd who likes fixing computers.

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        I don’t use Linux except on my steamdeck and even I know there are a bunch of distros that look and act (minus lots of the bad stuff) just like windows

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          Running Linux would block this feature too.

          Just reason sayin.

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            I've used this for years and have never interacted with any crypto feature

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            That you know of

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            • N [email protected]

              What's easier in Windows compared to Linux? Except the fact that you have to install it, since it doesn't come preinstalled on as many PCs. But many people who think Windows is easy would probably still consider installing it difficult.

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              Sadly, quite a few things. Here's a few:

              • Application support; some popular software is built with Windows in mind.
              • One-click installers; Software usually comes with user-friendly installation wizards. No command lines or dependency juggling. Also better compatibility woth past versions
              • Driver availability; Linux is getting better, but Windows is superior
              • Better peripheral support like for printers, webcams, game controllers.
              • Gaming performance; although Linux is gaining ground, Windows is just better in this regard
              • Media codecs and formats; again, Linux is getting better, but this isn't always an out-of-the-box experience
              • Business integration; Windows plays nicely with enterprise tools like Active Directory, Microsoft 365, and legacy business apps.

              Don't get me wrong. I use Linux as my daily driver. That also means I get frustrated on occasion when again I must consult man pages instead of just running a troubleshooter or fiddling with Nvidia drivers instead of just running the game.

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                Can Recall not just be turned off?

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                • almacca@aussie.zoneA [email protected]

                  Can Recall not just be turned off?

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                  For an update or two, at least. Windows features tend to get turned back on after updates quite frequently.

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                  • G [email protected]

                    Plenty of people still use it for work

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                    Any workplace with halfway decent IT will disable it by default.

                    Which may be about 50% of workplaces, but still.

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                    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                      MacOS isn't terrible, only the hardware is.

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                      Hmm, I have kinda opposite opinion, hardware is pretty good, build quality is great, but the OS itself is meh. File manager is bad and clunky, desktop customization is very limited, network manager is buggy, especially with VPNs, no built-in functionality to import VPN config files like in Linux. Also, I used it for years and still couldn't get used to all the shortcuts and "Mac-way"s of doing things. Just not for me perhaps. Not bad, but in terms of UX worse than both Windows and Linux for me.

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                        I don’t use Linux except on my steamdeck and even I know there are a bunch of distros that look and act (minus lots of the bad stuff) just like windows

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                        They act like Windows (minus lots of the good stuff) too.

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                        • N [email protected]

                          What's easier in Windows compared to Linux? Except the fact that you have to install it, since it doesn't come preinstalled on as many PCs. But many people who think Windows is easy would probably still consider installing it difficult.

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                          What's easier in Windows compared to Linux?

                          Graphics drivers. I can't say I ever had a graphics driver update in Windows that rendered my system borderline unusable, but I 100% blame Nvidia for me running windows until recently. I tried a dozen times over a decade and ended up back on windows when the Nvidia update trashed my system and I got sick of dealing with it.

                          On team green and running Bazzite with no issues

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                            Hmm, I have kinda opposite opinion, hardware is pretty good, build quality is great, but the OS itself is meh. File manager is bad and clunky, desktop customization is very limited, network manager is buggy, especially with VPNs, no built-in functionality to import VPN config files like in Linux. Also, I used it for years and still couldn't get used to all the shortcuts and "Mac-way"s of doing things. Just not for me perhaps. Not bad, but in terms of UX worse than both Windows and Linux for me.

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                            I'm the opposite of both of you. The build quality is good and the OS is good. I love having a familiat UNIX system while also having a polished desktop environment that supports 4k scaling very well (though the polish has been lacking a lot lately)

                            The issue for me is the insane price of their computers and the fact that you can't (officially) install MacOS on your own hardware. I have a Linux desktop and a MBP but I'd run MacOS on both if it was officially supported

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                            • Z [email protected]

                              For an update or two, at least. Windows features tend to get turned back on after updates quite frequently.

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                              I'm probably going to have to move to 11 at some point (Linux isn't for me right now), but I would like to be able to disable as much bloatware as possible. Vigilance it is then.

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                                You might say that they are being so very... Brave.

                                🎤 tap tap ... is this thing on?

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                                • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                  MacOS isn't terrible, only the hardware is.

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                                  Modern Mac hardware is excellent. The software is good too, but’s more a matter of taste. Not everybody likes how macOS works but Asahi Linux has made incredible progress so it’s a daily driver option for some already.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Running Linux would block this feature too.

                                    Just reason sayin.

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                                    There's one in every thread.

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      I've used this for years and have never interacted with any crypto feature

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                                      They kind of just ignore that the crypto feature is opt-in.

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        Running Linux would block this feature too.

                                        Just reason sayin.

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                                        Actually, Linux doesn't block windows, it just isn't windows.

                                        Just reason saying.

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                                        • O [email protected]

                                          Sadly, quite a few things. Here's a few:

                                          • Application support; some popular software is built with Windows in mind.
                                          • One-click installers; Software usually comes with user-friendly installation wizards. No command lines or dependency juggling. Also better compatibility woth past versions
                                          • Driver availability; Linux is getting better, but Windows is superior
                                          • Better peripheral support like for printers, webcams, game controllers.
                                          • Gaming performance; although Linux is gaining ground, Windows is just better in this regard
                                          • Media codecs and formats; again, Linux is getting better, but this isn't always an out-of-the-box experience
                                          • Business integration; Windows plays nicely with enterprise tools like Active Directory, Microsoft 365, and legacy business apps.

                                          Don't get me wrong. I use Linux as my daily driver. That also means I get frustrated on occasion when again I must consult man pages instead of just running a troubleshooter or fiddling with Nvidia drivers instead of just running the game.

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                                          (venting frustration)

                                          I'd argue with the installer point - if it's in the repo, and it almost always is for anything a newbie would be using, it's actually easier. Search, click, done. BUT...

                                          Drivers though, specifically companies not supporting Linux drivers, is shit. I'm helping a friend transition to Linux and am dual-booting myself so I can help with the actual os available for troubleshooting. And fuck me, sound drivers fucking suck ass on Linux. It's because Creative is a bitch and won't make Linux drivers, but also apparently literally nobody is both running a creative card and anything above 2.0 speaker setup. I have two creative cards, a decade apart, neither works with my 5.1 speaker setup. FL and FR work, the rest are some sort of fucked and come from an incorrect speaker(s). One of these cards is like 15 years old now, and nobody has noticed or rectified it. And if I reboot straight from windows to Linux, the sound is mangled. I need to shut the system down and boot it cold. Then FL and FR work. Hours of troubleshooting last week got me absolutely no progress.

                                          Then I need software for my Logitech g903 (there is 3rd party software available) that does profiles and switches on the fly based on the application in the foreground (crickets).

                                          Then there is an issue where if my monitor goes to sleep, when I wake it up I get patches of graphical artifacts. On the 2D desktop. Every few seconds, for about a quarter of a second. Random location each time. Random size. I'm on a Radeon 7900 XTX, which isn't terribly new now. But the friend I'm helping, no issues at all with drivers or hardware. An older 6700 XT. But come the fuck on.

                                          Both of us are on bazzite (I suggested it so they wouldn't nuke the system as they learn) so it's just Fedora silverblue with a few tweaks, not some out-there distro.

                                          And, shit. If you need cellular connectivity on Linux, as far as I can tell you're fucked if you don't go the Ubuntu route. Debian doesn't work, Fedora doesn't work, Mint doesn't work, I went down a rabbit-hole and tried a dozen distros. I ended up with kubuntu, since I wanted kde, but I tried anything just to see what would work. This is on a modern ThinkPad, still under (extended) warranty. I thought ThinkPads and Linux were supposed to be like this holy-grail of free-as-in-freedom computing? Ugh.

                                          So yeah if you have a basic system, aged a bit, nothing special, it works well. Take one step outside of that perfect-scenario bubble, and paaaaaain.

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