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    Every year I taught for the past 30 years I have heard this but I will say that every year I had to go over how to read a clock at the beginning of the year and every time a kid would ask me what time it is I would point at the clock and ask them what time they think it is? At least they left the class knowing how to read a clock even though they were shit at writing essays.

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      Yes, it's very easy to debunk this nonsense. I'm kind of amazed that nobody but me has googled this.

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/

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      Thank you for posting that.

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        Long before you honey. But you still haven't learnt to read I see.

        And judging by the way you're flexing that single useless skill, it must've taken you a LOT of time and energy to master. πŸ˜„

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        Long before you honey

        Are you sure, sweetie.

        it must've taken you a LOT of time and energy to master.

        Around 10 minutes. Not that you would be able to read this from an analogue clock...

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          Long before you honey

          Are you sure, sweetie.

          it must've taken you a LOT of time and energy to master.

          Around 10 minutes. Not that you would be able to read this from an analogue clock...

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          Are you sure, sweetie.

          More sure than your parents when you were born sweetie.

          Around 10 minutes.

          Highly doubt it. A lot of people know how to read analog clocks but not many defend it like their life depends on it. It must've taken you majority of your childhood to learn it, if you're so proud of that trivial skill. πŸ€” Buuutt, since u don't even know how to read, that's not really a surprise.

          Not that you can read all this without text-to-speech xD

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            I was taught block lettering in technical drafting class, 8th grade. Cursive is a lettering specifically created to be easy to handwrite. It flows on paper, as opposed to the repetitive short strokes of block lettering.

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            The way they taught us cursive was the complete opposite of the intent of cursive. Rigidly proscribed characters with marks only for form, ignoring all function. It was agonizingly tedious and physically painful writing all of those nonsensical scrawls. I immediately switched back to my own chicken scratch after grade school because it was not only orders of magnitude faster, but at least didn't make my hand painfully seize up into a claw.

            Decades later, as my handwriting evolved, a number of my own script letters began to resemble those wretched cursive runes, because I had apparently blindly stumbled upon the actual correct method for writing to flow from nib to parchment, as opposed to whatever those torturous rituals scarred me with as a child.

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              Are you sure, sweetie.

              More sure than your parents when you were born sweetie.

              Around 10 minutes.

              Highly doubt it. A lot of people know how to read analog clocks but not many defend it like their life depends on it. It must've taken you majority of your childhood to learn it, if you're so proud of that trivial skill. πŸ€” Buuutt, since u don't even know how to read, that's not really a surprise.

              Not that you can read all this without text-to-speech xD

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              Highly doubt

              That doesn't surprise me at all since you are still unable to learn such a simple thing after all these years, sweetie.

              No wonder your bunch elected Trump for the second time. You don't learn.

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                Highly doubt

                That doesn't surprise me at all since you are still unable to learn such a simple thing after all these years, sweetie.

                No wonder your bunch elected Trump for the second time. You don't learn.

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                Just give it up you're not winning this argument 😭

                Anyone sane would have realised this is a useless thing to fight over

                Either that or you're a troll

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                  Highly doubt

                  That doesn't surprise me at all since you are still unable to learn such a simple thing after all these years, sweetie.

                  No wonder your bunch elected Trump for the second time. You don't learn.

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                  Lol no one wants that orange clown. How tf did this get political even LMFAOAOAOAO. You're so run out of arguments, you had to bring in a politician into an argument about analog and digital clocks. You're the most unintentionally ridiculous guy I've bumped into on this platform πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

                  That doesn’t surprise me at all since you are still unable to learn such a simple thing after all these years, sweetie

                  Not me taking pride in a trivial thing I learnt. Just shows how hard it was for you. I learnt it and didn't make a big deal out of it, cuz Ik anyone could learn it if they wanted to.

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                    Are we being serious right now bro?! 🀦

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                      Teenagers not being able to tell the time from analogue clocks is CRAZY (saying this as a teenager myself)

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                        I just found out my 10yo has been lagging behind in spelling because he's been using speech-to-text on his school issued iPad for class work. He doesn't have to think about it or try sounding it out, so of course an unpracticed in-development skill is waning. It's going to be an interesting parent-teacher meeting coming up.

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                        Is it a feature you can disable on the iPad? I never considered that kids would be doing that. My spelling was never great but I just always chalked it up to the way my brain worked. Even when I spent a couple years in college spending most of my free time reading books both to myself and our loud to my partner I still didn't remember how certain words were spelt because I often didn't write them. If I never wrote them as you are saying I imagine it would have been much worse.

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                          I am in the transition age range of people who have trouble reading analog clocks and I must admit I had trouble with it until I started wearing a watch as an accessory as a teenager. The issue isn't that it's hard, it's just something that you need practice at to do quickly and a lot of young people just don't look at analog clocks to tell time very often. It's not a matter of being stupid or not being taught how to do it, it's like mental "muscle memory" that just isn't built up in a world where digital clocks are everywhere, including in your pocket 24/7

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                          Watches were pretty ubiquitous before the smart phone was popularized. Though, digital watches were common since the '80s, so I'm not sure how much that really figures in. There is some truth, though, in needing to regularly do it to keep the skill.

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                            I loved when a class would get quiet enough to hear the seconds hand click on the mechanical motor. I lived to see how close it was to the end of minute. One time in class I counted how black dots were on the ceiling. Wow I was bored

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                            I counted the dots along the x axis, multiplied by the y axis count and took that as an estimate for the tile. Then did the same with the number of tiles across the ceiling. Then multiplied that by the number of classrooms... Same with the floor tiles. There was no end to it.

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                              Clock reading was covered in kindergarten and cursive writing taught in 1st grade. These were some of the first wrinkles pushed into our little growing brains in the early 80s by school. That these things are no longer being taught so early explains why so many people are willing to immediately accept the Google AI overview as gospel and are wearing Crocs everywhere they go.

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                              and are wearing Crocs everywhere they go.

                              Oooh, that's harsh.

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                                Just give it up you're not winning this argument 😭

                                Anyone sane would have realised this is a useless thing to fight over

                                Either that or you're a troll

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                                Just give it up you're not winning this argument

                                There is no "argument to win" since my interlocutor is a person unable even to learn the clock.

                                Are you a another USian per any chance?

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                                  Lol no one wants that orange clown. How tf did this get political even LMFAOAOAOAO. You're so run out of arguments, you had to bring in a politician into an argument about analog and digital clocks. You're the most unintentionally ridiculous guy I've bumped into on this platform πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

                                  That doesn’t surprise me at all since you are still unable to learn such a simple thing after all these years, sweetie

                                  Not me taking pride in a trivial thing I learnt. Just shows how hard it was for you. I learnt it and didn't make a big deal out of it, cuz Ik anyone could learn it if they wanted to.

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                                  you had to bring in a politician into an argument about analog and digital clocks.

                                  No. I am bringing an example of stupity in the thread about stupidity.

                                  Go figure, sweetie.

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                                    You don't see how people too lazy to understand the clock are too lazy?

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                                    I do not. I don’t conceive of looking at something as having anything to do with the concept of laziness. I feel like I’m missing something huge.

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                                      you had to bring in a politician into an argument about analog and digital clocks.

                                      No. I am bringing an example of stupity in the thread about stupidity.

                                      Go figure, sweetie.

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                                      It's a thread about Analog and digital clocks. Trump had no significance in it. You're something else man πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ And to top it off, No one gives a shit about trump in my country 🀣🀣 you're hilarious

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                                        I do not. I don’t conceive of looking at something as having anything to do with the concept of laziness. I feel like I’m missing something huge.

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                                        I do not

                                        In this case I am afraid I doubt in my ability to explain anything to someone of your ability.

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                                          I do not

                                          In this case I am afraid I doubt in my ability to explain anything to someone of your ability.

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                                          That doesn’t bode well for you, then, given that I am several orders of magnitude morally and intellectually superior to you.

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