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If you could add any new rule to a sport or game you enjoy, what rule and why?

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    1. Remove the backdoor no ball. It does not benefit the sport but puts a lot of stress on bowlers bodies, knees in particular. The most commonly injured body part for bowlers. They land with 6x the impact of their bodyweight on one knee 6 times an over, like 20 overs a day. No good.

    I can get behind any rule that exists to protect the players. Sports are inherently physical but they shouldn't endanger the athletes.

    One of the reasons why I have a hard time getting behind boxing/certain martial arts as sports, it just feels like slightly more sanitized gladiatorial combat.

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    I think fighting sports have their place in society. We've had them forever across so many cultures that i can't really dislike em.

    We just enjoy violence I guess. Better it be controlled than not.

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      Football

      All the players are blindfolded

      (I don't enjoy football, but I'd certainly watch it if it involved people running at each other full speed blindfolded)

      Edit: American Football, but I'm honestly open to testing this on other sports too

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        NHL Hockey: Goaltenders eligible for contact if handling the puck outside the crease, and outside the trapezoid. Same as any other players.

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          NHL Hockey: Goaltenders eligible for contact if handling the puck outside the crease, and outside the trapezoid. Same as any other players.

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            American Football: no time outs.

            Play it just like soccer. Ref's calls are final, and the clock doesn't stop unless their is an injury.

            It would make the game much more fun to watch, cut the runtime by two thirds, and force teams to hire athletes who can maintain vigorous activity for half an hour without dying.

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              Soccer: yellow card for faking injuries (you can easily see players close to death that jumps us and run if no whistle is blown) and for protesting with the referee. Also, microphoned referee so that the whole audience can hear what they say (it will result in LOTS of red cards until respect is shown)

              Basketball: intentional foul is two free throws and ball, three in the last 2 minutes

              Football: proper helmets

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              Yellow card for faking injuries

              Make it red, and add a multi-match ban for repeat offenders. This is a culture problem in the sport that should have been dealt with years ago. I can only imagine how effective it would be to just send off a player for simulating. No questions asked. I would love to see the look on their face when they flop down and are immediately escorted off the pitch.

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                Soccer: yellow card for faking injuries (you can easily see players close to death that jumps us and run if no whistle is blown) and for protesting with the referee. Also, microphoned referee so that the whole audience can hear what they say (it will result in LOTS of red cards until respect is shown)

                Basketball: intentional foul is two free throws and ball, three in the last 2 minutes

                Football: proper helmets

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                I'd go even further and say red card for taking a dive.
                Pretending to be struck/hit by another player in an attempt to get an advantage = cheating.
                Cheaters shouldn't be allowed to play.

                It got a little better after they started with video ref'ing, but 90's Italian football still left its disgusting mark on the sport.

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                  Soccer: yellow card for faking injuries (you can easily see players close to death that jumps us and run if no whistle is blown) and for protesting with the referee. Also, microphoned referee so that the whole audience can hear what they say (it will result in LOTS of red cards until respect is shown)

                  Basketball: intentional foul is two free throws and ball, three in the last 2 minutes

                  Football: proper helmets

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                  Is a yellow for simulation just a Premier League & UEFA thing then? I assumed most top flight leagues did this now

                  Miked up refs should have been a thing for years, it very obviously will reduce corruption. In rugby, anytime the ref is making a decision it's all over the PA, plus you can get a little earpiece in the stadium to hear every single word they say

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                    Badminton:

                    1. screaming and shouting and other obviously bad manners meant to psychologically disturb the opponent. Looking at you, Carolina Marín. God I hate her.
                    2. Taking unnecessarily long to serve the shuttle, swaying left and right for a long time before serving. Looking at you, Viktor Axelsen! For shame! 🫵
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                    • snokenkeekaguard@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

                      Cricket:

                      1. Remove the backfoot no ball. It does not benefit the sport but puts a lot of stress on bowlers bodies, knees in particular. The most commonly injured body part for bowlers. They land with 6x the impact of their bodyweight on one knee 6 times an over, like 20 overs a day. No good.

                      2. So much I would change in Odis that i dont even have the energy to wrote it all.

                      3. A shit ton of administrative changes.

                      4. Mankads to no longer be stigmatised (they are legal already)

                      5. Allow some level of ball tampering, by which I mean not using anything but allowing some controlled substances.

                      6. Add substitutions

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                      1. Wait, how does the back foot no ball cause players stress? I thought that rule mostly impacts spin bowling, but it's fast bowlers who are at greatest risk of knee injury.
                      2. Come on. You can't leave us hanging like that! At least name a few of the changes you'd suggest.
                      3. See above
                      4. Strongly agree. Batsmen are able to get an advantage by proceeding up the pitch early. Mankadding is required to even the playing field. Imagine in baseball if sneaking a base was allowed, but not pitchers getting you out for it!
                      5. Strong disagree. There's enough evolution of the ball over the course of a test as it is. We don't need artificial substances any more than triathletes need to start allowing steroids.
                      6. Strong disagree, with the exception that maybe they could make allowances for genuine injuries, if there's a safeguard preventing abuse of that. Creating a good team composition with a balance of the right kinds of players for the match is a core part of cricket. Allowing substitutions to cricket would be like if rugby started doing the gridiron thing of swapping out defensive and offensive teams.

                      As far as format rules go: I'd ban anything shorter than ODI. T20 and the IPL in particular are ruining cricket, with too many young players learning that style and becoming worse cricketers unable to adapt to the truest form of the game. The way the media went on and on about Sam Konstas because of his showboaty shitty T20 play style. Never mind that Webster, who debuted in the same series as an all-rounder to Konstas' specialist batsman averaged significantly more.

                      The only other rule that immediately comes to mind is one I've been told is being addressed. The ridiculous boundary catch rule. You shouldn't be allowed to jump from outside the boundary to keep the ball alive. Spectacular jumps from inside the boundary, throwing it back over the rope from outside before landing, either to another player or to yourself if you're able to get back in the field of play, are awesome. Hopping while continuously outside the field of play is not. Thankfully, I've heard they're fixing this soon, if they haven't already.

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                        American Football: no time outs.

                        Play it just like soccer. Ref's calls are final, and the clock doesn't stop unless their is an injury.

                        It would make the game much more fun to watch, cut the runtime by two thirds, and force teams to hire athletes who can maintain vigorous activity for half an hour without dying.

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                        But when could they run the commercials?

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                          Baseball: Strictly timed innings. Take the average time of innings in the last season or two, set that as the time. Inning ends when the time ends. I don't care if it's mid-play, I don't care if the ball's in the air. And no extra innings. Tie game at the end of the 9th inning counts as a mutual loss.

                          Warhammer 40K: If it's on the table, play it. I don't care if it's a Battletech model, or a can of coke. It's a model, it gets a move, shoot, and melee.

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                            Soccer: don't use penalty shootouts to break ties. Penalities are a weird little minigame that don't really represent the most important skills of soccer, which are things like field position and control of the ball.

                            I'm open to suggestions on what should be done to break ties, but I like the idea of golden point where, if a goal is not scores after a certain amount of time, the number of players on the field starts gradually decreasing. So after 5 minutes of golden point, you drop to 10 vs 10, after 10 minutes it's 9 vs 9, down to a minimum of like 5 vs 5. Fewer players will tend to benefit the attacking team, making scoring more likely as it goes on.

                            Also soccer, as well as rugby union: just use the fucking clock. When the clock we see on the TV screen reaches 90 (or 80), that's it. Game over. Adjustments due to stoppage time etc. should be made at that time and transparent for everyone to see, by pausing the clock then and there, and resuming it when play resumes. Not added on at the end.

                            Edit: actually, it seems like rugby union might have already adopted this? I'm not too sure, because I'm a rugby league fan myself, which has always done it the right way (or at least always in my lifetime).

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                              Soccer: yellow card for faking injuries (you can easily see players close to death that jumps us and run if no whistle is blown) and for protesting with the referee. Also, microphoned referee so that the whole audience can hear what they say (it will result in LOTS of red cards until respect is shown)

                              Basketball: intentional foul is two free throws and ball, three in the last 2 minutes

                              Football: proper helmets

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                              yellow card for faking injuries…and for protesting with the referee.

                              Huge yes. I support the others saying it could even be a red card. The astonishingly bad sportsmanship from soccer players compared to other sports is a big reason it will never be taken seriously in countries like Australia. Diving is nothing short of cheating, and it's developed to such an extent that even children are frequently imitating the stars they see on TV and doing it in local club games.

                              In Australian football, which is played on cricket ovals ranging in size, but ~150 m long is a good ballpark figure, it takes very little talkback to the umpires (tbh, I've seen the rule overused in cases where it really didn't seem appropriate) before they'll march you 50 m. The opposing team gets not just a free kick, but a free kick from 50 metres closer to their offensive goal than where the original infringement took place.

                              Football: proper helmets

                              Assuming you mean gridiron football, I don't know exactly what you mean (how are the current helmets not "proper"?), but I would say exactly the opposite. The illusion of safety the helmet gives is part of what leads to concussions and CTE.

                              I'd do away with the helmet entirely. Go bald, or with a simple scrum cap, like in rugby union and rugby league. Techniques will have to adapt somewhat, but that's how all sports have to adapt to technological changes.

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                                Badminton:

                                1. screaming and shouting and other obviously bad manners meant to psychologically disturb the opponent. Looking at you, Carolina Marín. God I hate her.
                                2. Taking unnecessarily long to serve the shuttle, swaying left and right for a long time before serving. Looking at you, Viktor Axelsen! For shame! 🫵
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                                1 is such a huge problem with tennis, too. Absolutely ban the obnoxious grunts and yells.

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                                  Thunderdome rules for MMA. Keep going until there is a sub or knock out. No rounds and no time limit.

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                                    Football:

                                    1. A lot of financial and psr rules.
                                    2. Add rolling subs like basketball.
                                    3. Wenger style offside rule. If any part of the attacking players body is behind the last defender, its onside.
                                    4. Be stricter against defensive players brutally slashing wingers.
                                    5. Stop pthe stupid carding over showboating.
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                                    Re 1, are you suggesting salary cap? Because I seriously find it insane that there's no salary cap on soccer. It makes the highest levels of the sport a complete joke. Only 5 teams have won the EPL since 2004, and if you go to 6 teams you get to 1995. That's not a healthy competitive environment.

                                    IMO offside should use running photo finish rules. The forward most part of one player's torso needs to be behind the forward most part of the other player's torso. It's the most simple and intuitive method, IMO.

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                                      As someone who is forced to watch baseball by their fanatical wife: the MLB should adopt most of the rules that the Savannah Bananas use, including a fan catching a foul ball counts as an out, trick plays, inning timer, etc.

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                                        Sports in general need to make it illegal to dive to draw an undeserved penalty (or actually enforce the existing rules)
                                        Or
                                        They need to decrease the penalty for fighting so it doesn't result in an ejection.

                                        One or the other.

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                                          Sports in general need to make it illegal to dive to draw an undeserved penalty (or actually enforce the existing rules)
                                          Or
                                          They need to decrease the penalty for fighting so it doesn't result in an ejection.

                                          One or the other.

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                                          Sports in general need to make it illegal to dive to draw an undeserved penalty (or actually enforce the existing rules)

                                          This is the nub of it - lack of enforcement of existing rules. People are always clamouring for this new rule or that new rule, when in fact there's already one in place.

                                          Eg football ⚽

                                          At present, if a goalie has the ball in hand then they have 6 seconds to release it, or it's meant to be an indirect free kick to the opposition inside the goalie's team's 18 yard box. Very dangerous situation to defend, so you'd think it'd be a deterrent. However I can count on 2 fingers the number of times I've actually seen it enforced.

                                          So now there's a change to the rules coming - if they have it in hand for 8 seconds, it's a corner to the other team.

                                          So, it's a less punishing punishment, and they have 2 extra seconds' leeway. It makes absolutely no sense.

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