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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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  • R [email protected]

    The better term would be "LLM gobbling fuckheads" for those who use that stuff and believe it has anything to do with "AI"

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    sloppers

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      There has to be a catchier name than AI vegans...

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      Also too ambiguous of a term, could also mean an ai chatbot that pretends to be a vegan person.

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      • Z [email protected]

        Also too ambiguous of a term, could also mean an ai chatbot that pretends to be a vegan person.

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        yeah, lol. that's what i thought it meant when I first read the post

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          Im also a gun vegan, a car vegan, a facebook vegan, an exercise vegan (unfortunately), a windows vegan, ... just not actual vegan.

          I feel like thats a bad way to use the word vegan.

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          • J [email protected]

            While billionaires keep using their private jets.

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            Im a proud jet vegan myself, not that i have a choice, but still

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            • I [email protected]

              So I'm gonna play devil's advocate here and say that it is. Look at your teeth, humans are omnivores. Cutting out half the diet you evolved to consume is in fact a contriarian position. Not that I have any issues with vegans or vegetarians, just from an anatomical point of view we were designed to eat some meat! I do think calling people who don't use AI "AI vegans" is absurd though, as diet has absolutely nothing to do with use of AI. Would be more accurate to say their AI fasting if we're gonna use food related terms.

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              Theft, rape, and murder are "natural" too.

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                ha so I'm a double vegan

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                • harmsy@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                  I played around on an AI image generating website for a while. Eventually got bored with it.

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                  You very quickly see its limittions

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                    People who use the term "vegan" for somebody they consider extremist, ascetic, or annoying are really telling on themselves.

                    Side note: one of the most genius rebrands of all time was the way fake leather (which is often made from polyurethane, a type of plastic) suddenly became aspirational “vegan leather”.

                    Most vegan leathers are made from compostable materials, because (surprise, surprise!) many vegans are also environmentalists.

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                    • Z [email protected]

                      Yes, it sounds like marginalizing normal reasonable people.

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                      Most vegans are normal reasonable people too.

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                      • regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                        Imo vegan shouldn't be seen as derogatory. I'm not one, but got a lot of respect for most of em.

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                        it shouldn't, but years of lobbying and demonization online certainly have made it so

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                        • canajac@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                          LOL gen z kids are fucking hysterical.
                          AI will save the world, it has already started.

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                          Where... AI is ruining the world, with devastating levels of environmental impact, job losses and mental faculty damage.

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                            Good to know, I'll go ask one if the profs in our school of built environment for more info. See if they can offer more insight there.

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                            If you're interested in this topic, I simply must plug the Adam Something YT channel 🙂 He makes funny but also serious videos about urban and transport planning, and whatever new "trains but worse" transport idea techbros came up with this month.

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                              That's a weird way to spell luddite

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                              • U [email protected]

                                "refuse" lol as if there were a general requirement to use this shit

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                                This caught my eye as well. Haha. Some people are constantly looking for a machine to rage against.

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                                  Missed opportunity to coin the term “Aitheist”
                                  Fools.

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                                  • Z [email protected]

                                    lol ok. I've literally done it. Please, go enlighten yourself on google.

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                                    "Enlighten yourself" you mean make your argument for you?

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                                      I find it hilarious that most people in this thread are complaining about being called a "something vegan", like I can understand not being happy with the current AI trend, but it seems like the word "vegan" is what makes everyone ticks, it's NOT an insult, the "normal" vegan are very happy to be called like that, because what it refers too is something that they agree and identify with. If you agree and identify yourself with what those journalist are calling "AI vegans", the name doesn't matter, embrace it, call yourself that to easily express what you believe about AI.

                                      Vegan is not an insult, it is a compliment.

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                                      Well, one is a group of smug uninformed zealots pretending their choices are somehow saving the environment from something that isn't a problem in the first place... you know the punchline 😉

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                                      • umbraroze@slrpnk.netU [email protected]

                                        This makes about as much sense as calling Linux users "Windows vegans".

                                        Choosing to not use AI isn't some wacky contrarian position, it's a tame position that can easily be justified. (Don't want to use AI? Then don't.) If anything, trying to assert that constantly using AI for everything would be the new normal is the wacky position.

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                                        In terms of office work, the technology pretty much already exists to cause a change akin to the change that happened from pre-photocopier (so typing pools), only the odd phone line per office building, no fax, obviously no computers/email/internet/mobile phones era office work to the office work of today.

                                        The energy use is unconscionable. The people currently owning the tech that runs large language models are awful, but it is possible for companies and individuals to run their own llm's.

                                        Anyway, the point is, would it be daft for anyone to insist on working in a typing pool in a 1950s office today? I get why people dislike ai. I am not really trying to defend it, I'm just saying that it really is a mistake for anyone to just try and ignore it.

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                                          Missed opportunity to coin the term “Aitheist”
                                          Fools.

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                                          VAIgans.

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