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  • justenoughducks@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

    I have written a more detailed comment on it before, but 2d printing is much more technically complicated than 3D printing, and the resolution is literally an order of magnitude difference (0.2mm vs <42um) and the printer has to print full color on any surface with microdots in a very very short time. People would throw the printer out if it took 10 minutes for a single paper like a large first layer takes in 3D printing.

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    We were ok with dot matrix printers. We are and will be ok with black and white prints. Open Source community will be ok with a slow and ugly print. The company just need to allow their monopoly to be broken. I don't think they will.

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      I couldn't agree more. I also hate when mice or keyboards can not be easily disassembled to be properly cleaned. In this case I guess it's a matter of printing precision and/or material (don't have my own printing experience, so maybe somebody else can comment on it)

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      Many people will say "just sand it down". But the extruder-printed plastic is still going to be porous as heck. A perfect place for germs.

      Personally, I'd use the 3D model to create a negative mold of sorts, and then cast it out of something more human-friendly. But I haven't looked at the complexity of this model, this would have to be designed accordingly.

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        Stupid question from someone who’s never 3d printed anything - can you just sand these things smoother?

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        It depends how it was printed.

        As a SUPER simplified basic: Any 3d print consists of walls/perimeters and infill. The walls are the exterior surfaces of the print. The infill is what is inside. And the vast majority of prints tend to be sparse infills. So rather than solid plastic beneath those walls, you mostly just have air and a mesh structure of some form.

        So if the wall is thick enough (generally referred to as "number of walls")? Sure. If it isn't? You'll just see the void inside the shell itself and make things much worse.

        What is generally done to reduce "3d printed texture" is a mixture of smaller print layers (so the ridges are much thinner), printing with more walls, and actually lightly melting the exterior surface (either through chemicals or heat).

        VKB are probably the kings of the mid-range sicko HOTAS market and I am like 90% certain they 3d print the shell of their sticks for the Gladiator (?). But they do such a good job that I genuinely can't be certain. Whereas the vast majority of ploopy builds... aren't that.

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        • theloweststone@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

          I've got to say "Ploopy" is one of the absolute worst names I've ever seen. Before I even saw the picture, I thought "I bet it looks like shit."

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          I'm sorry but that's such a ploopy take. You can't just judge something by it's name 🙄

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          • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

            I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

            The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

            Here's another shot of it:

            A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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              Opensource projects often have terrible names.

              Gimp, libreoffice, lemmy, Apache... just the ones that come to mind.

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              the fuck is wrong with LibreOffice?

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                Now do printers.

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                I often wonder how difficult it would be to create an aftermarket control board for existing printers.

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                • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                  I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                  The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                  Here's another shot of it:

                  A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                  I am also a big fan of the MX518 lineage mice, so I hope someone make a version that has that shape. When Logitech released an updated MX518 several years back I bought a couple of them, so I will be good for years hopefully.

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                  • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                    I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                    The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                    Here's another shot of it:

                    A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                    I'm waiting for my MX to die to get one! I really like the idea of open hardware and this looks like a good mouse.

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                    • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                      I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                      The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                      Here's another shot of it:

                      A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                      This is pretty cool. I make and 3d print pieces for my G502 to make it fit better for my hand/nubs. This seems like it has a lot of potential to design something better for me. That price is steep though but being disabled that's nothing new to me.

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                      • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                        I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                        The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                        Here's another shot of it:

                        A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                        Isn't there severe issues with micro plastics doing this? Serious question. I've just heard in general on 3d prints that they're more prone to shedding.

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                          Many people will say "just sand it down". But the extruder-printed plastic is still going to be porous as heck. A perfect place for germs.

                          Personally, I'd use the 3D model to create a negative mold of sorts, and then cast it out of something more human-friendly. But I haven't looked at the complexity of this model, this would have to be designed accordingly.

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                          How do you usually do that?

                          Do you create a negative of the model digitally or take a mold of the printed parts?

                          What kinds of human-friendly materials do you use? And do you need any special equipment for it?

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                            Isn't there severe issues with micro plastics doing this? Serious question. I've just heard in general on 3d prints that they're more prone to shedding.

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                            If you do the smoothing steps it can be OK, especially if you sand it in a sealed environment or with a HEPA vacuum handy to suck up all of the particulates. Once it is sanded you can do a short acetone treatment and the surface will be melted smooth. It can take some practice, but you can seal it up pretty well without sacrificing quality. Just be mindful of air quality and filtering at each step so you don't undermine your goal.

                            Also, no matter what the microplastic impact on the environment is less than a mouse made in a factory thar doesn't pay attention to any of its air quality standards.

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                              Isn't there severe issues with micro plastics doing this? Serious question. I've just heard in general on 3d prints that they're more prone to shedding.

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                              need to take it real old, print it in abs and do a vapor smoothing in acetone.

                              You could also print this in a goo printer and not have the issue.

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                                How do you use a trackball mouse? Does moving the mouse and moving the trackball both move the pointer? Or one moves the pointer and the other does something else?

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                                I helped a user who exclusively uses a trackball and started getting used to it within seconds. My thumb was definitely not used to the trackball but I very quickly adapted and could navigate the computer normally

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                                • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                                  I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                                  The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                                  Here's another shot of it:

                                  A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                                  3D printed stuff looks so uncomfortable to hold.

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                                    Opensource projects often have terrible names.

                                    Gimp, libreoffice, lemmy, Apache... just the ones that come to mind.

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                                    Gimp is a funny acronym that explains exactly what the software does. Libreoffice also tells you exactly what the product is. Lemmy is quick, catchy, easy to remember, and has a story behind it. Apache is... pretty bad.

                                    Ploopy is literally "poopy" with an extra letter.

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                                    • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                                      I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                                      The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                                      Here's another shot of it:

                                      A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                                      I want an open source mouse with electromagnetic resistance wheel like one in Logitech MX Master 3S.

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                                      • theloweststone@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                        Gimp is a funny acronym that explains exactly what the software does. Libreoffice also tells you exactly what the product is. Lemmy is quick, catchy, easy to remember, and has a story behind it. Apache is... pretty bad.

                                        Ploopy is literally "poopy" with an extra letter.

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                                        Gimp refers to sexual exploitation. Often the "exploited" is a willing participant but often not. Regardless it's "funny" the way a 12 year old finds drawing dicks on things funny.

                                        Libreoffice only tells geeks exactly what the product is. My team, who uses Libreoffice, couldn't explain what Libre means, and no one can pronounce it.

                                        Being quick and catchy is a pretty low bar. No one knows or cares about the story behind Lemmy. It sounds silly in conversation.

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                                          How do you usually do that?

                                          Do you create a negative of the model digitally or take a mold of the printed parts?

                                          What kinds of human-friendly materials do you use? And do you need any special equipment for it?

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                                          The adult toys community would have some guides. You print the object, cast the mold around it and then fill the void with silicone afaik.

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