What features are missing from piefed, or, why aren't we reccommending piefed instead of lemmy?
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If you use a mobile app then whether your account is on Lemmy or PieFed makes no difference - most of your experience will be determined by which app you choose.
Indeed, but at the moment only Interstellar has alpha support for Piefed.
Once the Thunder for is released, and Voyager, Arctic, Summit etc start to support Piefed, then it will be the case.
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Interstellar works with PieFed now although the API it uses is only enabled on one instance https://preferred.social as we're still testing it out.
Is Interstellar support complete? I thought it was still in alpha/beta phase
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We have data on what it costs to run a sizeable instance of Lemmy and it's not a lot. How does Piefed compare? Anyone starting an instance who envisions it growing large has to contend with this question.
There are now sizeable communities run on Lemmy instances that are reinforced by network effects. There needs to be a significant reason for them to migrate.
We won't 100% know the answer to that until we get there. But in 2025 fear of a lack of CPU cores is NOT what keeps me awake at night.
Early performance results are positive. Check these links out:
https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/13/technical-performance-of-each-fediverse-platform/
https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/09/comparing-network-utilization-of-lemmy-kbin-and-piefed/
There are many many ways to ruin web app performance and choice of backend language is not really a big one. It's what you do with it that counts.
https://piefed.social is running on a low end VPS which costs $7.50 per month. Load average is about 1.45 during the busiest part of the day. Most of the load is caused by federating with lemmy.world and that won't increase as more users come on board.
PieFed is already really efficient with storage. After 16 months of operation, subscribed to every popular community, the piefed.social DB is 30 GB and the media storage is 28 GB. A Lemmy instance would be 10x that.
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Is Interstellar support complete? I thought it was still in alpha/beta phase
Definitely alpha, yeah. But moving fast!
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Has world really not enabled parallel sending yet? That feature was made specifically for them.
I just checked the graph, its now 4.26 days.
Not wanting a meta post is weird though.
Every time I had a mod refusing meta posts it lead to power tripping. Better safe than sorry
Even so, .world will eventually enable parallel sending, and even in the meantime aussie.zone only boasts 375 MAUs. I don't know that such a miniscule minority is worth bending over backwards for and creating further fragmentation.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for choosing instances other than .world when setting up new comms. They're too big. But while we're still at a point where content amount is the primary concern and we're trying to achieve critical mass I also don't know if endless fragmentation is well advised.
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My biggest issue with Piefed is how much space the UI uses. Last I checked it didn't have a "compact mode" like current Lemmy or Alexandrite. Browsing communities is also a bit awkward since it shows you so many topics without a way to sort or remove them.
Ok. Watch this space: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/540
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We won't 100% know the answer to that until we get there. But in 2025 fear of a lack of CPU cores is NOT what keeps me awake at night.
Early performance results are positive. Check these links out:
https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/13/technical-performance-of-each-fediverse-platform/
https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/09/comparing-network-utilization-of-lemmy-kbin-and-piefed/
There are many many ways to ruin web app performance and choice of backend language is not really a big one. It's what you do with it that counts.
https://piefed.social is running on a low end VPS which costs $7.50 per month. Load average is about 1.45 during the busiest part of the day. Most of the load is caused by federating with lemmy.world and that won't increase as more users come on board.
PieFed is already really efficient with storage. After 16 months of operation, subscribed to every popular community, the piefed.social DB is 30 GB and the media storage is 28 GB. A Lemmy instance would be 10x that.
That's nice info, thanks! Do you know why the db difference?
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That's nice info, thanks! Do you know why the db difference?
I've never seen a Lemmy DB, sorry.
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I've never seen a Lemmy DB, sorry.
Can confirm. When we took over the running of feddit.uk migrating the images took forever as it was around 300GB.
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There's more than that.
Stuff like feeds, topics and better onboarding.I run a Pixelfed instance. The code is faaaaaaaarrrrr from polished. Its buggy and the admin interface either doesn't work or is poorly implemented. I'd rather run and moderate Lemmy than Pixelfed. I have considered just shutting it down several times. I run the instance https://social.photo/.
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Every time I go to the piefed frontpage I'm blown away by how much more polished it is. It has all the bells and whistles that lemmy is sometimes missing.
Whats the catch? Why aren't we recommending everyone goes to piefed instead of lemmy?
App support is one thing I can think of.
Probably app support. If Lemmy didn’t have wefwef/voyager during the API debacle of 2023, I probably would not have stuck around. The default UI is terrible for mobile.
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There's more than that.
Stuff like feeds, topics and better onboarding.For people that care about that sort of thing, that’s great. I just need the ability to subscribe to communities and comment on posts and Lemmy has been great for that while using voyager
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The US isn't the only country, and I bet people using the fediverse skew heavily toward android in the US anyway.
I wasn’t trying to be derogatory, I know that outside the US Android is the dominant platform, but in the US it’s iOS. (I actually thought the percentage of iOS users would have been a little higher.)
That’s an interesting assumption that the Fediverse skews Android, I’d like to see some numbers on that.
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I run a Pixelfed instance. The code is faaaaaaaarrrrr from polished. Its buggy and the admin interface either doesn't work or is poorly implemented. I'd rather run and moderate Lemmy than Pixelfed. I have considered just shutting it down several times. I run the instance https://social.photo/.
People are talking about Piefed not Pixelfed
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My biggest issue with Piefed is how much space the UI uses. Last I checked it didn't have a "compact mode" like current Lemmy or Alexandrite. Browsing communities is also a bit awkward since it shows you so many topics without a way to sort or remove them.
That is exactly the main reason I created my own theme, but yeah there should be a official compact theme, especially for the mobile phone.
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If you want to debate Apple, start another thread. This post is about Mbin and Piefied, and for me, I use Voyager on iOS to surf Lemmy. I don’t want to switch to or recommend Mbin or Piefied if there’s not an app for it and the best I can do is a PWA.
Don’t try to hijack the thread to push your anti Apple agenda. You can dislike Apple all you want, just not in this thread.
This post is not about Mbin, only about Piefed (not Piefied).
Don't try to tell people what they can or can not talk about in this thread while disregarding it yourself.
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Every time I go to the piefed frontpage I'm blown away by how much more polished it is. It has all the bells and whistles that lemmy is sometimes missing.
Whats the catch? Why aren't we recommending everyone goes to piefed instead of lemmy?
App support is one thing I can think of.
I think it's good that PieFed is so small, that means they can move faster and innovate more without fearing that things will break for thousands of people. I think it's good that a project like PieFed can try things and see what works and sticks and this is then a good indicator for projects like Lemmy to copy what is good and leave out what is not good.
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I run a Pixelfed instance. The code is faaaaaaaarrrrr from polished. Its buggy and the admin interface either doesn't work or is poorly implemented. I'd rather run and moderate Lemmy than Pixelfed. I have considered just shutting it down several times. I run the instance https://social.photo/.
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This post is not about Mbin, only about Piefed (not Piefied).
Don't try to tell people what they can or can not talk about in this thread while disregarding it yourself.
Woooo boy you told me!
Actually this thread is about Piefied, not correcting people who are correcting people, so now you’re in the wrong.
You’ll excuse me, but my eyes rolled so hard, I have to go try to get them back to the front.
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Woooo boy you told me!
Actually this thread is about Piefied, not correcting people who are correcting people, so now you’re in the wrong.
You’ll excuse me, but my eyes rolled so hard, I have to go try to get them back to the front.
Very good.
