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  • A [email protected]

    I found a super simple way to refer people to Lemmy.

    One simple message:

    Try out the Reddit alternative called Lemmy
    https://phtn.app/

    It also has a mobile app: https://vger.app/settings/install

    This way a user can just click, start seeing content and what Lemmy is about, and if they want to comment etc. they will be asked to create an account with lemm.ee selected as a default.

    This should fix most of the onboarding UX issues, and eliminate the decision fatigue of trying to figure out which instance is best.

    ekzepp@lemmy.worldE This user is from outside of this forum
    ekzepp@lemmy.worldE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    "You can choose between dozens of apps:"

    https://www.lemmyapps.com/

    https://lemmyapps.netlify.app/

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    • A [email protected]

      I found a super simple way to refer people to Lemmy.

      One simple message:

      Try out the Reddit alternative called Lemmy
      https://phtn.app/

      It also has a mobile app: https://vger.app/settings/install

      This way a user can just click, start seeing content and what Lemmy is about, and if they want to comment etc. they will be asked to create an account with lemm.ee selected as a default.

      This should fix most of the onboarding UX issues, and eliminate the decision fatigue of trying to figure out which instance is best.

      donuts@lemmy.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      I like this a lot. Using lemm.ee isn't mandatory, as you can choose "pick another server" the moment you try to comment. For a moment I was wary that this would just send everyone to 1 instance.

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      • donuts@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

        I like this a lot. Using lemm.ee isn't mandatory, as you can choose "pick another server" the moment you try to comment. For a moment I was wary that this would just send everyone to 1 instance.

        muntedcrocodile@lemm.eeM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        I think their should be a list of prechecked instances that are randomly selected

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        • muntedcrocodile@lemm.eeM [email protected]

          I think their should be a list of prechecked instances that are randomly selected

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          #7

          No. That will create more confusion. Keep it simple.

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            No. That will create more confusion. Keep it simple.

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            #8

            I mean it will say ”join [randomly selected preapproved instance here]” its no harder but it helps keep the fediverse decentralised.

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            • ekzepp@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

              "You can choose between dozens of apps:"

              https://www.lemmyapps.com/

              https://lemmyapps.netlify.app/

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              That's bad UX due to Choice Overload - https://lawsofux.com/choice-overload/

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              • muntedcrocodile@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                I mean it will say ”join [randomly selected preapproved instance here]” its no harder but it helps keep the fediverse decentralised.

                asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                Basically what https://join-lemmy.org/ does by default

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                • muntedcrocodile@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                  I mean it will say ”join [randomly selected preapproved instance here]” its no harder but it helps keep the fediverse decentralised.

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                  #11

                  I read it wrong. If it's pre-selected should be good.

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                  • ekzepp@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                    "You can choose between dozens of apps:"

                    https://www.lemmyapps.com/

                    https://lemmyapps.netlify.app/

                    xnx@slrpnk.netX This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    So many of those apps no longer exist

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                    • A [email protected]

                      That's bad UX due to Choice Overload - https://lawsofux.com/choice-overload/

                      opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      And we make it worse by saying "Just pick one. It doesn't matter what instance you're on because they're federated."

                      Some people are going to be very upset to find their local feed is a lot of content they don't agree with. Or when they go out into the fediverse and people automatically assume they're an A-hole because of the instance they're from. I mean, it's generally not that bad, but there are a few instances that are that bad.

                      And for people like me who gravitate toward smaller instances, that instance is probably gonna die. Happened to me twice already, 4 times if you count Mastodon and Peertube.

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                      • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO [email protected]

                        And we make it worse by saying "Just pick one. It doesn't matter what instance you're on because they're federated."

                        Some people are going to be very upset to find their local feed is a lot of content they don't agree with. Or when they go out into the fediverse and people automatically assume they're an A-hole because of the instance they're from. I mean, it's generally not that bad, but there are a few instances that are that bad.

                        And for people like me who gravitate toward smaller instances, that instance is probably gonna die. Happened to me twice already, 4 times if you count Mastodon and Peertube.

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                        #14

                        Exactly, if it doesn't matter then we can just pick a default for them.
                        That's why I like my very simple message

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                        • A [email protected]

                          I found a super simple way to refer people to Lemmy.

                          One simple message:

                          Try out the Reddit alternative called Lemmy
                          https://phtn.app/

                          It also has a mobile app: https://vger.app/settings/install

                          This way a user can just click, start seeing content and what Lemmy is about, and if they want to comment etc. they will be asked to create an account with lemm.ee selected as a default.

                          This should fix most of the onboarding UX issues, and eliminate the decision fatigue of trying to figure out which instance is best.

                          andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote on last edited by
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                          Don't recommend Voyager as a desktop client to new users. It just looks like a stretched mobile app, and the UX on desktop is piss poor. Just go with the default Lemmy UI, or Photon.

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                          • andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                            Don't recommend Voyager as a desktop client to new users. It just looks like a stretched mobile app, and the UX on desktop is piss poor. Just go with the default Lemmy UI, or Photon.

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                            Fair I'll rather point to https://phtn.app/

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                            • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA [email protected]

                              Basically what https://join-lemmy.org/ does by default

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                              It doesn't preselect, if I choose General and English I'm faced with a list of 18 servers to pick from.

                              Users will drop off like crazy here due to choice overload - https://lawsofux.com/choice-overload

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                              • andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                                Don't recommend Voyager as a desktop client to new users. It just looks like a stretched mobile app, and the UX on desktop is piss poor. Just go with the default Lemmy UI, or Photon.

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                                Id say just recommend Photon. It works well on both mobile and desktop. I love voyager but two very different uis is going to confuse new users.

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                                • andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                                  Don't recommend Voyager as a desktop client to new users. It just looks like a stretched mobile app, and the UX on desktop is piss poor. Just go with the default Lemmy UI, or Photon.

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                                  I use Alexandrite on my laptop and really like it

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                                  • A [email protected]

                                    It doesn't preselect, if I choose General and English I'm faced with a list of 18 servers to pick from.

                                    Users will drop off like crazy here due to choice overload - https://lawsofux.com/choice-overload

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                                    #20

                                    Just select the first instance that shows up then.

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                                    • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA [email protected]

                                      Just select the first instance that shows up then.

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                                      #21

                                      That's bad UX, see the link in my previous comment

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                                        I found a super simple way to refer people to Lemmy.

                                        One simple message:

                                        Try out the Reddit alternative called Lemmy
                                        https://phtn.app/

                                        It also has a mobile app: https://vger.app/settings/install

                                        This way a user can just click, start seeing content and what Lemmy is about, and if they want to comment etc. they will be asked to create an account with lemm.ee selected as a default.

                                        This should fix most of the onboarding UX issues, and eliminate the decision fatigue of trying to figure out which instance is best.

                                        blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Interesting. I still wouldn't go by that by default (for French or German speakers, Jlai.lu or feddit.org makes more sense), but this can be useful for general recommendations.

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