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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • ? Guest

    "And I still think it's misleading. If they made the analogy in the video it would be different."

    I was just responding to your own point, mate. Good news, it is in the video multiple times, even visually referenced multiple times. They even described as a cartoonish test while showing the cartoon wall gag. So, per your own words, should be good to go then, yeah? I mean, you're arguing with yourself at this point.

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    By being different if it's in the video, I'm just saying it's OK to make the analogy WITH CONTEXT!
    How do you understand it otherwise? It obviously doesn't change the fact that the thumbnail is clickbait either way.

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      This is a very good test, and the car should have past. That said though, I hate the click bait format where they show a stupidly obvious cartoonish wall, when the real wall is way more convincing.

      The Video:

      That sort of clickbait is 100% sure to get a "do not recommend channel" from me, I'm so sick of it. And it's sad when the video has such a good point.

      The Clickbait

      I can see it's kind of funny, but it's misleading.

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      passed

      I agree with everything you said.

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      • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

        Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

        Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

        The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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        Well, I guess we know how to defeat Teslas.

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          They are so expensive too! /s

          Who would have known electronics gets cheaper all the time?? /j

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          Except GPUs 😥

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          • gladiusb@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

            passed

            I agree with everything you said.

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            Thanks. 😎
            Then imagine why 15% downvote? I suppose it means they don't see how it's misleading?

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              https://github.com/ajayyy/DeArrow
              https://sponsor.ajay.app/database

              This (again) is from the link in the comment you replied to..
              Your attitude really doesn't work well with your lack of reading comprehension.

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              6 hour trial, sounds like proprietary to me.

              Privacy Note: Other than intially checking your license key, no requests to DeArrow servers contain your license key.

              Edit: I just read the entire text, and it is actually very reasonable, I just caught the license key thing together with the payment option. It's actually even cheap, so maybe I'll consider it.

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                By being different if it's in the video, I'm just saying it's OK to make the analogy WITH CONTEXT!
                How do you understand it otherwise? It obviously doesn't change the fact that the thumbnail is clickbait either way.

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                Yeah, and they make the analogy with context. And the thumbnail references the analogy. And all of it is fully owned as cartoonish and the cartoon is referenced multiple times, even with visuals. So per your own thoughts, should be OK.

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                  He's said humans don't use LiDAR so his cars shouldn't have to. Of course humans have a brain, and he's cars don't, but you can't tell him anything.

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                  Human drivers also make automobiles one of the most dangerous ways to travel.

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                    I agree the wall is convincing and that it’s not surprising that the Tesla didn’t detect it, but I think where your comment rubs the wrong way is that you seem to be letting Tesla off the hook for making a choice to use the wrong technology.

                    I think you and the article/video agree on the point that any car based only on images will struggle with this but the conclusion you drew is that it’s an unfair test while the conclusion should be that NO car should rely only on images.

                    Is this situation likely to happen in the real world? No. But that doesn’t make the test unfair to Tesla. This was an intentional choice they made and it’s absolutely fair to call them on dangers of that choice.

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                    That's fair.

                    I didn't intend to give tesla a pass. I hoped that qualifying what i said with a "fuck tesla and fuck elon" would show that.

                    But i didn't think about it that way.

                    In my defense my point was more about saying "what did you expect" the car to do in a test designed to show how a system that is not designed to perform a specific function cant perform that specific function.

                    We know that self driving is bullshit, especially the tesla brand of it. So what is Mark's test and video really doing?

                    But on reflection, i guess there are still a lot of people out there that dont know this stuff, so at the very least, a popular channel like his will go a longway to raising awareness of this sort of flaw.

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                      6 hour trial, sounds like proprietary to me.

                      Privacy Note: Other than intially checking your license key, no requests to DeArrow servers contain your license key.

                      Edit: I just read the entire text, and it is actually very reasonable, I just caught the license key thing together with the payment option. It's actually even cheap, so maybe I'll consider it.

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                      You cannot be serious?! Are you trolling?

                      • First of all, something not being free (as in gratis) does not mean it is proprietary per se.

                      • Second of all, your reading comprehension failed you again:

                        However, if you cannot, or do not want to pay, you can click the button at the bottom to use DeArrow for free. No worries if you can't or don't want to pay 🙂

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                        Thanks. 😎
                        Then imagine why 15% downvote? I suppose it means they don't see how it's misleading?

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                        YouTube is always click bait nowadays. There are plenty of that aren't and have good quality. But everyone I encounter that's trying to breakout is sensational for the sake of being sensational.

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                        • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                          Still supports a creator pulling clickbait.
                          The only way is to vote with views/retention.

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                          The only way is to vote with views/retention.

                          Want to guess why they are there in the first place?

                          I hate it too, but it’s mostly one of those “we can’t have nice things because of other people around us” situations.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            If it's made to be misleading and baiting, yes I FUCKING should. And so should you and everybody else.

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                            How is it misleading?

                            The title asks "can you fool a self driving car" and the thumbnail illustrates a cartoon situation that immediately explains how they will attempt to do so in the video.

                            The video then goes on to not only answer the question, but explore the technology involved in-depth.

                            It MORE than delivers on the "clickbait".

                            Thumbnails can't be subtle, they typically get viewed at a tiny size compared to the full video and that's why large high-contrast features work better than a random screencap from the video.

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                              There's a very simple solution to autonomous driving vehicles plowing into walls, cars, or people:

                              Congress will pass a law that makes NOBODY liable -- as long as a human wasn't involved in the decision making process during the incident.

                              This will be backed by car makers, software providers, and insurance companies, who will lobby hard for it. After all, no SINGLE person or company made the decision to swerve into oncoming traffic. Surely they can't be held liable. 🤷🏻‍♂️

                              Once that happens, Level 4 driving will come standard and likely be the default mode on most cars. Best of luck everyone else!

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                              You can't sue me for my driverless car that drops caltrops, forcing everyone else to take the train.

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                              • teal@lemm.eeT [email protected]

                                Beep beep! Damn things are using ACME LiDAR!

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                                Actually elon demanded that lidar be depricated because of phantom breaking years ago, they only use visible spectrum cameras now

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                                  Wow you guys even lost the ability to do syntax. I guess it was only a matter of time.

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                                  do syntax

                                  Ironic phrase.

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                                  • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                                    Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                    Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                    The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                    This is why it's fucking stupid Tesla removed Lidar sensors and relies on cameras only.

                                    But also who would want a tesla, fuck em

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                                      I'm (was) huge SpaceX nerd, but last year or so I'm less and less. He always was dumb narcissist asshole, but now I can't take it anymore. Also the idea that we've fucked up this planet and need to move somewhere else, by doing thousands of launches finishing this planet always made me sick. If someone would take him out, I probably would come back to liking the company.

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                                      To the famously already fucked planet Mars, no less.

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                                      • thann@lemmy.dbzer0.comT [email protected]

                                        Actually elon demanded that lidar be depricated because of phantom breaking years ago, they only use visible spectrum cameras now

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                                        It wasn't because of phantom braking.
                                        It was to cut costs.

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                                        • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                                          Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                          Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                          The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                          There's a very simple solution to this. BUILD MORE TRAINS!

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