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TIL No Kings Protests were the 3rd Largest in US History

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  • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    Then why is the government so completely dominated by the right if most politically active people are on what Americans call the left?

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    Because while a lot of Americans support a lot of left wing positions, there are no major left wing parties, and a very small number of politicians who run for national or statewide office who actually take action to further left wing policies. There's Bernie Sanders, who isn't a member of a large party. AOC, and a few others qualify, but being a small proportion of those running, they're a small proportion of those elected, and have relatively little actual influence.

    Ideas neither major party supports are basically impossible to see happen.

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      Literally all of these except number 23 and 31 are left wing protests.

      Let that sink in 32/34 that’s over 94% of the biggest protests in the US were left wing.

      We are the majority. Stop believing in the Reagenesque “silent majority” BS.

      The majority of people, dont want oligarchs and conservative bigotry.

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      Also, if memory serves, the right wing group the 3 percenters got their name because it only took 3% of the population to initiate change at some historical event.

      Ergo, it doesn’t take that many people to get out and change the nation, but ffs you got to get out

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        This is online discourse in general with Americans. Nuance is impossible, it's all "you're either with us or against us", for example when discussing China. Doesn't even have to be something political, just any charged argument at a point in time.

        Must be a coincidence that Lemmy was much more relaxed and welcoming when there were fewer Americans here in the beginning, you could even read news about European countries, now all we get is American politics spam.

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        Doesn't even have to be something political

        Yeah, it does. Everything is political. I guarantee, you've never had an apolitical argument taken over by Americans, because there's no such thing as an apolitical argument

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          #49

          1 George Floyd protests 500,000[5]
          15,000,000–26,000,000 2020

          2 Earth Day 20,000,000[6] 1970

          3 No Kings protests 5,000,000 2025

          4 Hands Across America (poverty) 5,000,000 1986

          5 2017 Women's March 3,300,000–4,600,000

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            Classic bad take

            You can vote and protest, they're not mutually exclusive

            Stop trying to divide the left

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            Exactly. Theyre not mutually exclusive. There is a lnown issue with working class people not being able to take time off on tuesdays to go vote. If elections were saturdays, maybe there would be a better turn out.

            I feel like this argument doesnt hold as much water as it used to with how easy it is to vote by mail or use early voting. At least in the 3 locations ive been for the last presidential election

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              I was about to say the list was incomplete as several million attended the Iraq war protests, but it turns out that was global and only a few hundred k Americans bothered to protest the invasion of Iraq based on manufactured propaganda.

              The post 9/11 bloodthirsty hysteria, "you're either with us or against us" dissonance, religious nationalism, and ignorant patriotism is what made me believe the US would become an authoritarian dictatorship in my lifetime. Great job teenage me. I hate it.

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              I was in college at that time and was a typical "centrist" and counter protested. I've changed at lot since then.

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              • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                This makes me really hopeful.

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                Less to me. There are families being kidnapped, seperated, and sent to death camps, and the respinding protests outside of LA were a two hour march on a weekend.

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                  Less to me. There are families being kidnapped, seperated, and sent to death camps, and the respinding protests outside of LA were a two hour march on a weekend.

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                  What is good enough for you?

                  Quiet everyone, Mustakrakish is about to tell us the acceptable number for a protest.

                  Go ahead, the floor is yours.

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                  • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                    The fact that there are so many valid reasons makes me extremely unhopeful.

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                    To make you more hopeful, they have to constantly fight to keep these systems of oppression in place. We win if/when this stops. All we have to do is keep fighting them. Make them work to oppress us, and it'll crumble.

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                      I was about to say the list was incomplete as several million attended the Iraq war protests, but it turns out that was global and only a few hundred k Americans bothered to protest the invasion of Iraq based on manufactured propaganda.

                      The post 9/11 bloodthirsty hysteria, "you're either with us or against us" dissonance, religious nationalism, and ignorant patriotism is what made me believe the US would become an authoritarian dictatorship in my lifetime. Great job teenage me. I hate it.

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                      I think you may have misread the Wikipedia page. There were 300-400,000 in NYC alone.

                      I was in Boston and there were 10s of thousands, even though it was February and sleeting, SF had another 150-200k.

                      I think there was a sizable group in DC too.

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                        To make you more hopeful, they have to constantly fight to keep these systems of oppression in place. We win if/when this stops. All we have to do is keep fighting them. Make them work to oppress us, and it'll crumble.

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                        So the electoral college and the apportionment act will go away, too?

                        And Americans won’t be a bunch of fucking idiots with the attention span of a goldfish?

                        And we’ll get proportional representation when they crumble?

                        Because most of the issues pointed out are structural and have nothing to do with Trump

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                          What is good enough for you?

                          Quiet everyone, Mustakrakish is about to tell us the acceptable number for a protest.

                          Go ahead, the floor is yours.

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                          Maybe a protest that goes longer than 2 hours, on a weekend, where everyone dispereses and goes back home to watch the game? Maybe one that causes actual resistence and pushback? Not one that amounts to a community day in the park?

                          Look at the LA protests. More akin to this:

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                            What is good enough for you?

                            Quiet everyone, Mustakrakish is about to tell us the acceptable number for a protest.

                            Go ahead, the floor is yours.

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                            A general strike?

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                              Maybe a protest that goes longer than 2 hours, on a weekend, where everyone dispereses and goes back home to watch the game? Maybe one that causes actual resistence and pushback? Not one that amounts to a community day in the park?

                              Look at the LA protests. More akin to this:

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                              So your mad that protesters in other cities aren't being attacked by local police and federal agents, got it.

                              Pass the word everyone, if you're not getting hit with tear gas and rubber bullets your protest doesn't matter. Might as well not even try.

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                                A general strike?

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                                Funded by?

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                                • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                  Then why is the government so completely dominated by the right if most politically active people are on what Americans call the left?

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                                  As others pointed out, there's major structural issues. There's also issues with apathy and people buying into the anti-electoralism/accelerationism con with religious ferver.

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                                    It's been clear for a long time that the "silent majority" is in fact just an obnoxiously loud minority.

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                                    Mean rich people, their deluded lapdogs, and maybe like a thousand honest-to-goodness psychopaths.

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                                      I was in college at that time and was a typical "centrist" and counter protested. I've changed at lot since then.

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                                      Congratulations on your evolution. I was pretty cringe around that era, too.

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                                        It felt like everyone was like you were either 1000% on board or you were casually on board cause you weren’t “into politics” but trying to find likeminded people who opposed it felt impossible to me. I was 16 when 9/11 happened and shortly after was when I stoped standing for the anthem or saluting the flag in the morning and I was the only kid in my highschool of 1,800 kids to do that and wow I got SO MUCH hate for it

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                                        The spike in nationalism was intense, and hasn't really dropped back down to a reasonable baseline since.

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                                          Earth Day needs to keep happening too.

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                                          I'd like an Earth Day of the week. Day of the week for a bunch of progressive agendas would be cool. You've got Fight Fash Friday, obviously Saturday is Gay, Sunday Earth Day like don't buy anything and maybe sabotage something? Monday is probably international worker solidarity. Etc.

                                          You can fit a lot of good into 7 days.

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