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Before And After: The Iranian Nuclear Sites Targeted By US Airstrikes

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    The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.

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    I’m an American and I hate to break this to you but the people elected this clown. That’s how it works here. You didn’t vote for him? Okay. But until you’re doing absolutely everything you can to prevent people like him being elected, you don’t get to just shrug off responsibility. I know exactly two people who are doing everything they can, and neither of them is me.

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      I’m an American and I hate to break this to you but the people elected this clown. That’s how it works here. You didn’t vote for him? Okay. But until you’re doing absolutely everything you can to prevent people like him being elected, you don’t get to just shrug off responsibility. I know exactly two people who are doing everything they can, and neither of them is me.

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      It's a tough one. Even the people who voted for him are mainly guilty of being gullible. Noone is born maga. They get indoctrinated. The gullible believe it, the rest make up all the stories about family political arguments at holiday dinners...

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        It's a tough one. Even the people who voted for him are mainly guilty of being gullible. Noone is born maga. They get indoctrinated. The gullible believe it, the rest make up all the stories about family political arguments at holiday dinners...

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        That’s fairly true of everyone and everything. We are born into a culture and it influences us greatly. I don’t think adults get any kind of a pass because of that. Certainly Americans of voting age have options about what to think and believe, regardless of where they start out.

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          That’s fairly true of everyone and everything. We are born into a culture and it influences us greatly. I don’t think adults get any kind of a pass because of that. Certainly Americans of voting age have options about what to think and believe, regardless of where they start out.

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          That's basically victim blaming. You are implying they have a choice to be less gullible? And yeah, it is a large group, the size of it doesn't really matter. The powers that be are taking advantage of the masses for thier own purposes. And they know they are doing it.

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            Unless you think about it of course, then you realize in reality actually only one country and its client-state currently goes around bombing other countries it doesn't even border and slaughtering civilians while celebrating it as "national security", and that's the US (and Israel, literal Jewish ISIS).

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            Which country will take America's place when it falls? America is not the first and while history may not repeat, it often echoes and they won't be the last.

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            • C [email protected]

              The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.

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              This orange maniac and his entourage could only get this far because of a good portion of "the people".

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                Unless you think about it of course, then you realize in reality actually only one country and its client-state currently goes around bombing other countries it doesn't even border and slaughtering civilians while celebrating it as "national security", and that's the US (and Israel, literal Jewish ISIS).

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                Russia: Am I joke to you?

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                  Unless you think about it of course, then you realize in reality actually only one country and its client-state currently goes around bombing other countries it doesn't even border and slaughtering civilians while celebrating it as "national security", and that's the US (and Israel, literal Jewish ISIS).

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                  Look to all the European fuckery that set up many of these conflicts in the Middle East and Africa.

                  The UK, France, Belgium, etc. all have extremely bloody pasts around the world.

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                    The United states is a terrorist country.

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                    America is the model the Nazis looked up to.

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                      The United states is a terrorist country.

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                      I was so surprised when California Protester Shootings happened and everybody acted surprised.

                      I had always just assumed that the US is a terrorist state and these things happen regularly. It surprised me a lot when people acted all shocked about it.

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                        America is the model the Nazis looked up to.

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                        I've heard that before too but if you are going to try and convince anyone an actual source will help.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          That's basically victim blaming. You are implying they have a choice to be less gullible? And yeah, it is a large group, the size of it doesn't really matter. The powers that be are taking advantage of the masses for thier own purposes. And they know they are doing it.

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                          I’m saying they are adults and they have some responsibilities. I have lived in a place where thought options were actively suppressed, and I know how much freedom and information access Americans have. It’s true there is abuse and manipulation and lying out there. But no, I am not comfortable calling MAGAts victims and blaming someone else for how they vote. They are indeed getting fooled, but let’s be real: it’s a “fool me twice” situation in Trump’s second term.

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                            That's basically victim blaming. You are implying they have a choice to be less gullible? And yeah, it is a large group, the size of it doesn't really matter. The powers that be are taking advantage of the masses for thier own purposes. And they know they are doing it.

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                            As an outsider, I don't blame the people who voted for him the first time but the second time? Nope. People had a choice to be less gullible because there was evidence that he is not fit to lead: felony charges, nepotism, incompetence, derangement etc.

                            It's cognitive dissonance from the top down.

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                              Bunker busters only have about 2300kg of payload, the rest of the weight is the penetrator body.

                              The bombs are rated at destroying a 20m radius.

                              There is some evidence that these penetrators can be guided away from targets by clever architecture. (A reinforced diamond cross-swcrioned concrete beam for instance can guide the penetrator away from its target)

                              Long story short we don't know if these did anything.

                              Here is the presentation that talks about it https://youtu.be/TriASB-F5UY

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                              Bunker busters only have about 2kg of payload,

                              Nope. Please note: when an American writes 2.082 lb, he's not meaning 2 pounds and tidbits. He's meaning 2000 pounds. AFX and PBXN are not glitter, they're explosives. 🙂

                              Filling AFX-757/PBXN-114

                              Filling weight 4,590 / 752 lb (2,082 / 341 kg)

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                                Bunker busters only have about 2kg of payload,

                                Nope. Please note: when an American writes 2.082 lb, he's not meaning 2 pounds and tidbits. He's meaning 2000 pounds. AFX and PBXN are not glitter, they're explosives. 🙂

                                Filling AFX-757/PBXN-114

                                Filling weight 4,590 / 752 lb (2,082 / 341 kg)

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                                Yep I meant 2000kg apparently. Thanks for the correction

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                                  I live in the US. I blame 40% of the people at a minimum, and likely more than that.

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                                  60%. Non-voters don't get a pass.

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                                  • M [email protected]

                                    It's a tough one. Even the people who voted for him are mainly guilty of being gullible. Noone is born maga. They get indoctrinated. The gullible believe it, the rest make up all the stories about family political arguments at holiday dinners...

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                                    And Trump is that way because he's an unintelligent nepobaby. We have to draw a line somewhere.

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                                      And Trump is that way because he's an unintelligent nepobaby. We have to draw a line somewhere.

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                                      Trump is mostly a pawn really. The people pulling the strings is where the line should be drawn. They know what they are doing is wrong, but do it anyway.

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                                        As an outsider, I don't blame the people who voted for him the first time but the second time? Nope. People had a choice to be less gullible because there was evidence that he is not fit to lead: felony charges, nepotism, incompetence, derangement etc.

                                        It's cognitive dissonance from the top down.

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                                        That's not how gullible works. You don't have a choice. Evidence doesn't matter if you are convinced it is fake news. And yes, I have met people who really believed all of that was fake news.

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                                          I’m saying they are adults and they have some responsibilities. I have lived in a place where thought options were actively suppressed, and I know how much freedom and information access Americans have. It’s true there is abuse and manipulation and lying out there. But no, I am not comfortable calling MAGAts victims and blaming someone else for how they vote. They are indeed getting fooled, but let’s be real: it’s a “fool me twice” situation in Trump’s second term.

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                                          But look at the data. Forvthe most part it is the red states he is hurting the most. They litterally are the victums. Doesn't stop me from hating them, but I know the blame doesn't really belong on them. The people who deserve the blame just want us to blame them.

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