Let delivery drivers keep their
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Hmm, as someone relatively deep into lgbtq issues (though particularly trans issues), I'd say the term itself is perhaps a bit misleading. The way I understand it and see it used is that it's about heterosexuality and also gender norms within that traditional heterosexual relationship (so some people think that even in a homosexual relationship there's always "a man" (dominant) and "a woman" (submissive)).
In that sense (to directly relate to the post) a dominant woman in a relationship with a submissive man would actually go against heteronormativity a bit.
On second thought I guess I can see the relation though, in the sense that the traditional "man is dominant in a hetero relationship" combined with the fact that by default most men probably mostly top could make someone see "topping is considered dominant" as reinforcing those traditional relationship norms. Still feels very overreactive by the original commenter but eh.
Your second thought was my first thought tbh
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Aren’t they already being topped by their employers?
Only when delivering subs
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Only when delivering subs
Lemmy won't let me reply to your DM. It says you don't exist. Which is kinda funny, since your name is Owl and Lemmy is being like "Who?"
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Lemmy won't let me reply to your DM. It says you don't exist. Which is kinda funny, since your name is Owl and Lemmy is being like "Who?"
Lemmy is mocking me
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Second user's name: "Warm beer is a war crime"
Klok fans: "Now listen here you tyfusleijer"
::: spoiler context
Klok is a Dutch beer, where a common meme is "een man van cultuur drinkt zijn Klok op kamertemperatuur," i.e. a man of culture drinks their Klok at room temperature.
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On top during gay sex
Not just gay sex, any sex with power exchange. Can also include completely heterosexual mild BDSM.
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Not just gay sex, any sex with power exchange. Can also include completely heterosexual mild BDSM.
Maybe it’s me being old but it was never outside of gay sex when I was young
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Maybe it’s me being old but it was never outside of gay sex when I was young
From what I've gathered, it's entirely possible that some previously exclusively gay terms are now more generally applied.
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Hmm, as someone relatively deep into lgbtq issues (though particularly trans issues), I'd say the term itself is perhaps a bit misleading. The way I understand it and see it used is that it's about heterosexuality and also gender norms within that traditional heterosexual relationship (so some people think that even in a homosexual relationship there's always "a man" (dominant) and "a woman" (submissive)).
In that sense (to directly relate to the post) a dominant woman in a relationship with a submissive man would actually go against heteronormativity a bit.
On second thought I guess I can see the relation though, in the sense that the traditional "man is dominant in a hetero relationship" combined with the fact that by default most men probably mostly top could make someone see "topping is considered dominant" as reinforcing those traditional relationship norms. Still feels very overreactive by the original commenter but eh.
Thanks for taking the time to walk through your thoughts - I appreciate the conversation.
I think the particularly egregious problem with interpreting the comment as referring to the association of man=top=dom is that the meme has a gal as the dom, as you've pointed out, which does go against heteronormativity.
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Not just gay sex, any sex with power exchange. Can also include completely heterosexual mild BDSM.
top means the one who penetrates the other. What you're describing is a dom
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Maybe it’s me being old but it was never outside of gay sex when I was young
For vanilla cis hetero sex it doesn't apply since the man is always the top and the woman is always the bottom.
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To dominate sexually.
That is dom. Top means to penetrate the other
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What does top mean?
Hi! Peter here to explain the mene. Since all the other answers are wrong, here's the actual answer:
Top means the person who penetrates the other (the bottom). The term originates from gay sex, since there it can be very important who is penetrating who. But it can also be applied to other sex (not just homosexual cis men). In the meme above, the implication would be that l
Lois uses a strap-on or other kind of dildo to penetrate the delivery driver.Top often, but not always goes hand-in-hand with domination (dom/sub). Hence the dominatrix-like outfit Lois is putting on.
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For vanilla cis hetero sex it doesn't apply since the man is always the top and the woman is always the bottom.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]„Always“
Seems like your picture of hetero sex is from a hollywood textbook -
I hate this heteronormative bullshit that topping is the same as domming
I agree except for the heteronormative part. What does the confusion of these terms have to do with heteronormativity?
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Seems like your picture of hetero sex is from a hollywood textbookThat's why I added the word "vanilla"
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Second user's name: "Warm beer is a war crime"
Klok fans: "Now listen here you tyfusleijer"
::: spoiler context
Klok is a Dutch beer, where a common meme is "een man van cultuur drinkt zijn Klok op kamertemperatuur," i.e. a man of culture drinks their Klok at room temperature.
:::En een echte gladiator drinkt 'm van de radiator
