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    Hahehahahehhahahahahhrha I don’t know what a thing is for

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    I know it's supposed to help with recycling, the issue is that it fails to address the core of the problem. Instead of actually doing something about plastic waste, they change the bottle design a little, someone probably makes a shitload of money off that, and everyone is happy, but in reality nothing of substance has actually been done. They offer us these pathetic compromises and we are stupid enough to be satisfied with them.

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      Not sure if this applied universally, but I remember for years and years the common knowledge was that plastic caps are unrecyclable for some reason, and there used to be separate bins to toss them at recycling centers. That's no longer the case, so keeping the cap connected to the bottle is one way to demonstrate that they should be recycled together.

      (By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)

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      IIRC the reason most caps used to be unrecyclable (many still are) is that they had a liner in them made of a different material. Because such caps were composite materials (using different types of plastic for the liner and the cap), they would make an impure product if recycled. The same problem applies if the cap and bottle are different types of plastic, which used to be more common.

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        I know it's supposed to help with recycling, the issue is that it fails to address the core of the problem. Instead of actually doing something about plastic waste, they change the bottle design a little, someone probably makes a shitload of money off that, and everyone is happy, but in reality nothing of substance has actually been done. They offer us these pathetic compromises and we are stupid enough to be satisfied with them.

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        It's supposed to help with littering, not recycling. And I've never once seen a water bottle company advertise an attached lid as some sort of ground breaking benefit for the environment.

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          Not sure if this applied universally, but I remember for years and years the common knowledge was that plastic caps are unrecyclable for some reason, and there used to be separate bins to toss them at recycling centers. That's no longer the case, so keeping the cap connected to the bottle is one way to demonstrate that they should be recycled together.

          (By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)

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          This is why I stopped recycling and put everything in the trash.

          For one I was so sad when I found out what a scam it is that such a small amount of stuff is actually recycled and especially plastic never was actually planned to be recycled.

          Two, I'd rather most of the plastic end up in our own landfill than to be shipped overseas into someone else's or just end up in the ocean. We deserve to poison our own land thanks to our politicians not holding corporations to account.

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            I know it's supposed to help with recycling, the issue is that it fails to address the core of the problem. Instead of actually doing something about plastic waste, they change the bottle design a little, someone probably makes a shitload of money off that, and everyone is happy, but in reality nothing of substance has actually been done. They offer us these pathetic compromises and we are stupid enough to be satisfied with them.

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            No it does very much so solve the problem it was meant to solve: to stop caps from becoming litter!

            You must have a very funny life if you find things funny you don’t understand

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              I end up dribbling because the lid gets in my way, but it's fine because I'm helping to offset the pollution caused by a billionaire's private jet.

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                When cleaning up beaches and the like, those caps are the litter they found the most.

                People lost them or didn't bother to pick them up because they are so small. Unlike with the bottles themselves.

                Since they switched to the new caps, the amount of caps found has decreased significantly.

                So yes, they work. It is all based on data.

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                Ofc it is, but stupid fucks have to complain about mundane shit

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                  I just always rip them off.

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                    Thanks for the safe microplastics!!!

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                    it said good, not safe. It will still kill you but in a good way

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                      No it does very much so solve the problem it was meant to solve: to stop caps from becoming litter!

                      You must have a very funny life if you find things funny you don’t understand

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                      What do you think happens to bottles after you throw them in the trash? They get shipped off to some landfill where they're buried and forgotten about, that's just littering with extra steps.

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                        I know it's supposed to help with recycling, the issue is that it fails to address the core of the problem. Instead of actually doing something about plastic waste, they change the bottle design a little, someone probably makes a shitload of money off that, and everyone is happy, but in reality nothing of substance has actually been done. They offer us these pathetic compromises and we are stupid enough to be satisfied with them.

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                        That's not about companies doing something, it's just a new law

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                          What do you think happens to bottles after you throw them in the trash? They get shipped off to some landfill where they're buried and forgotten about, that's just littering with extra steps.

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                          I am starting to think that you are very young, Lemmy is not supposed to be used by underage ppl! Yes yes yes, no one can stop you realistically but please consider why such a rule would be made! Not because Lemmy’s servers just cannot handle all the users…

                          Litter means rubbish in publics non-designated areas! If you want to use a word not for its conventional meaning, and if you wanted others to understand you for whatever reason, you start off with a definition

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                            I am starting to think that you are very young, Lemmy is not supposed to be used by underage ppl! Yes yes yes, no one can stop you realistically but please consider why such a rule would be made! Not because Lemmy’s servers just cannot handle all the users…

                            Litter means rubbish in publics non-designated areas! If you want to use a word not for its conventional meaning, and if you wanted others to understand you for whatever reason, you start off with a definition

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                            So trash in nature is ok as long as you don't see it?

                            Anyways, it seems you are far more intelligent and knowledgeable than me, so it probably doesn't make sense to debate you since I will lose either way...

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                              When cleaning up beaches and the like, those caps are the litter they found the most.

                              People lost them or didn't bother to pick them up because they are so small. Unlike with the bottles themselves.

                              Since they switched to the new caps, the amount of caps found has decreased significantly.

                              So yes, they work. It is all based on data.

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                              Also, the caps separated from the bottle fall through dinky cracks easier, like street drain covers) and get lost easier (or drop out of the bottom of the bin easier, etc.), being attached to the large bottle makes that more difficult to occur.

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                                On other news, there are biodegradable plastics. We should probably use those more. Sure we'll end up with biodegradable plastic in our bodies but basically it would be inert. PVA, PVOH and CMC for example are inert plastic-like chemicals that can coat stuff in foams. CMC for example makes the clear gel that you put on your hair as well as the gel-like behavior you get from various cosmetics. PVA/PVOH is part of non toxic glue. and what's in those molecules? Just carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, nothing more than what's already in our bodies.

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                                  That's an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

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                                    Ofc it is, but stupid fucks have to complain about mundane shit

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                                    I'm only complaining about all the people that apparently regularly lost bottle caps. I don't think that has happened to me ever... Not the end of the world and if it reduces litter I'll deal with it but I curse these people every time one of the new caps is being annoying to screw back on.

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                                      I'm only complaining about all the people that apparently regularly lost bottle caps. I don't think that has happened to me ever... Not the end of the world and if it reduces litter I'll deal with it but I curse these people every time one of the new caps is being annoying to screw back on.

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                                      Minority opinion, but I like those style caps. I like that I dont have to hold the cap. It's much easier on the go.

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                                        I rip those off out of spite

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                                          So trash in nature is ok as long as you don't see it?

                                          Anyways, it seems you are far more intelligent and knowledgeable than me, so it probably doesn't make sense to debate you since I will lose either way...

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                                          Not knowing what words mean is fine, having a brain fart is fine at whatever age!! But crossing your arms and continuing to pretend that you have to be right…

                                          Are the unseen parts of a forest meant for trash collection?

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