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Supreme Court to decide whether ISPs must disconnect users accused of piracy

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  • 0 [email protected]

    Oh, so like they do in the uncivilized middle-east?
    Naaaah

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    Given the US is ran by the New Fuhrer? I could see this being used against criticism of leadership or anything else resembling free will and not just piracy. I also find it sad that the day the US will probably die as a free country and turn into a dictatorship, is the same day it gained its independence in the first place.

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      I keep my seedbox in the planter at the coffee shop down the road with free WiFi.

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      Epic lol

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      • kevincox@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

        Then they'll lobby against public WiFi. I was in China recently and (depending on the province) you need a phone number to access public WiFi so that they know who you are.

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        I hope that this doesn't come to the US. Even now, a lot of the available Wifi hotspots are from cable companies (which require their account logins, so they definitely will know who you are).

        Would giving a throwaway VOIP number that's untraceable to someone fool that kind of service, I wonder? Unless caught right away, they would probably have to get their identity on an individual basis.

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          According to the article this is the USA. How on brand.

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            I hope that this doesn't come to the US. Even now, a lot of the available Wifi hotspots are from cable companies (which require their account logins, so they definitely will know who you are).

            Would giving a throwaway VOIP number that's untraceable to someone fool that kind of service, I wonder? Unless caught right away, they would probably have to get their identity on an individual basis.

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            In China there is no such thing as a throwaway number (at least outside of black markets). All numbers require ID to acquire.

            For the US it would be a bit different. VOIP numbers do exist but they are often also blocked by services (this isn't black and white but there are services that will quite accurately map numbers into ranges like home/cell/business/VoIP).

            But of course the assumption would be that if they start requiring phone numbers for WiFi access the logical next step would be to make all numbers traceable to humans.

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            • dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

              You should already be underground

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              Instructions unclear, now sitting in basement.

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                Lol.

                Do ISPs like making money?

                Then they shouldn't disconnect users who pirate.

                I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don't do anything though because they like the money I give them.

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                • M [email protected]

                  Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?

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                  #152

                  give it a few months, they're working up to it.

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                  • L [email protected]

                    That mask almost fell but he’ll make sure it doesn’t slip again

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                    We all wear masks

                    *it has come to my attention that my joke was not funny, that is all

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                      This is how you get a new darknet.

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                      In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people's identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.

                      VPNs are common and usually sufficient.

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                        More like, if you steal something you are banned from using roads and sidewalks and doors.

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                        Gonna be a lot of issues that come from this. Legally speaking. It's already on the books that an IP address doesn't represent a single person... so I'm not terribly clear on how they plan to enforce this even if it were to pass.

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                          Call me when all these LLM get their internet cut off then.

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                          Rich people skirting the law is nothing new.

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                            Then pirates will just get smarter. No way for them to see who is watching all of these movies with their VPN and Debrid service.

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                            • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              Lol.

                              Do ISPs like making money?

                              Then they shouldn't disconnect users who pirate.

                              I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don't do anything though because they like the money I give them.

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                              After switching to torbrowser for all my questionable searches and downloads, I no longer get notices from my ISP for like 10 years now

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                                Always make sure that QBT uses your VPN's network interface. I got some DMCA emails despite split-tunneling a VPN recently, and I realized it was bound to all interfaces by default - that's no good.

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                                  In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people's identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.

                                  VPNs are common and usually sufficient.

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                                  Don't public trackers add random IPs?

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                                    Don't public trackers add random IPs?

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                                    They could. The protocol also supports IP spoofing, so doxing could also be a thing.

                                    For individuals, it is a time consuming and costly legal process, whether justified or not. For the law firm, it costs a few cents per letter, but they get a few hundred (or more) euros when some sucker pays.

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                                    • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                      Lol.

                                      Do ISPs like making money?

                                      Then they shouldn't disconnect users who pirate.

                                      I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don't do anything though because they like the money I give them.

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                                      I've been torrenting movies and software since 2000, no vpn, like I literally have torrented damn near everything I've watched for decades and have only gotten a notice once and it wasn't even me. It was from a temporary roommate who had watched a movie on a pirate streaming site.

                                      So that tells you how good and accurate their detection techniques are.

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                                        Oh, so like they do in the uncivilized middle-east?
                                        Naaaah

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                                        Their uncivilized censorship regime vs. our civilized online child protection and anti-terror laws.

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                                          In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people's identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.

                                          VPNs are common and usually sufficient.

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                                          A boy downloaded a movie via torrent without using a VPN.

                                          He died.

                                          Good night! 😴

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