Trump suggests taking over New York City and Washington
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All just because Cuomo lost to a progressive candidate. Americans, please be fully aware what lengths Trump is willing to take for total control
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Yeah I went bug eyed there for a sec as a fellow resident
"for a sec"
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.- Martin Niemöller, Holocaust survivor
Are you only willing to act once they are at your doorstep?
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Fuck the mods
First off, to be clear, I don't agree with this statement, I think it's the wrong stance.
But after that, I think this is a really an interesting point. [In general I understand a policy of not inciting violence] but if for instance, (purely hypothetically) the country were to fall into civil war (a crazy suggestion I know), wouldn't this policy instantly seem inappropriate?
I mean, encouraging people to join the war effort would be a matter of course, to quash that sentiment and silence those voices seems unethical.
As we slip closer to that possible outcome, surely the time for seriously talking about violence would come before the first shot is fired, right? So where do you draw that line? At what point is a statement which incites violence "violating site rules" and at what point is it "legitimate discussion of impending hostilities".
And I for one, am very interested in how mods feel about this question.
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He means fuck the mods because they ban and delete comments that even hint at violence or Revolution, which only helps the oppressor. We are never going to get a better deal if every time we talk about getting mad, we get shut up and shut down.
It was a huge issue on Reddit and is becoming one here with the mods who just ban everyone who gets mad -
Fuck the mods!
Violence will be the only correct response if this is done.
Actively overturning an election bc the other party won, is a call to remove those in charge by any means.
Actively overturning an election bc the other party won
The election is in November ...
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This is dementia ramblings.
They could have asked him about cheese and I bet he would've talked about doing a tremendous job at making cheese grate again.
Do. Not. Underestimate. This. Fascist.
America is on the brink.
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As a resident of Washington state, I really wish these articles would include D.C. when they refer to the country's capital. This time, they are referring to D.C.
Don't worry, if he takes over those two your turn won't be far behind.
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This is dementia ramblings.
They could have asked him about cheese and I bet he would've talked about doing a tremendous job at making cheese grate again.
It is until it isn't.
There's no way he'd implement a 250% tariff. That's just crazy.
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Fuck the mods
First off, to be clear, I don't agree with this statement, I think it's the wrong stance.
But after that, I think this is a really an interesting point. [In general I understand a policy of not inciting violence] but if for instance, (purely hypothetically) the country were to fall into civil war (a crazy suggestion I know), wouldn't this policy instantly seem inappropriate?
I mean, encouraging people to join the war effort would be a matter of course, to quash that sentiment and silence those voices seems unethical.
As we slip closer to that possible outcome, surely the time for seriously talking about violence would come before the first shot is fired, right? So where do you draw that line? At what point is a statement which incites violence "violating site rules" and at what point is it "legitimate discussion of impending hostilities".
And I for one, am very interested in how mods feel about this question.
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wouldn't this policy instantly seem inappropriate?
Out of context, yes. However, lemmy.world has been banning people for jokes or PERCEIVED call for violence.
It feels more like a "I'm having a bad day and i'm taking it out on you." On top of that, the incresing amount of fake news sites or uncreditable news outlets is alarming. If the goal was to be reddit 2.0 , Mission accomplish.
At what point is a statement which incites violence "violating site rules" and at what point is it "legitimate discussion of impending hostilities".
I feel this should be the point if his threat is carried out. Everything up to this point could be argued in a manner that it is still, no matter how crazy it sounds, in hia scope of power. Removing an elected political adversary due to their political party would mean starting over with a constitution.
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So, to my fellow Americans in NYC, how are those gun laws working out? That's a smartass question, but more seriously, what will you do when the Gestapo comes rolling down Flatbush Avenue?
I'll never find it again, but a few years ago jihadis went rampaging down the streets in Iran, randomly shooting into apartment blocks. All I could think was, "At least that can't happen here."
When they kick at your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
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Actively overturning an election bc the other party won
The election is in November ...
Yes, if he overturns the election results after the election. I guess he could passive aggressively do it to.
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This is dementia ramblings.
They could have asked him about cheese and I bet he would've talked about doing a tremendous job at making cheese grate again.
wrote last edited by [email protected]He's basically already invaded LA. Don't know why people think this is unbelievable.
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He means fuck the mods because they ban and delete comments that even hint at violence or Revolution, which only helps the oppressor. We are never going to get a better deal if every time we talk about getting mad, we get shut up and shut down.
It was a huge issue on Reddit and is becoming one here with the mods who just ban everyone who gets madJordan just bans you if you hurt nazis feelings.
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Must, absolutely must, arm yourselves. Join local militias, self-defense forces, neighborhood Patrol forces, or whatever you call them in your area. Got to prepare.
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The apoplectic establishment reaction to Mamdani is not about the evil of affordable housing or solving food deserts. It is suggesting arrest of Netanyahu.
States and cities are under fire from federal Republicans that either must resort to higher taxes on some people, or significantly increase desperation levels that will increase crime, and validate more the needs for fascist takeovers of cities/states that don't fund anti-desperation programs.
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Do. Not. Underestimate. This. Fascist.
America is on the brink.
Brink? my brother in christ that brink was several months back. you're a full on fascist state now. I'm in Canada and I live above a Nazi bar.
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Must, absolutely must, arm yourselves. Join local militias, self-defense forces, neighborhood Patrol forces, or whatever you call them in your area. Got to prepare.
I need to seek one of those out
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Must, absolutely must, arm yourselves. Join local militias, self-defense forces, neighborhood Patrol forces, or whatever you call them in your area. Got to prepare.
yeah... all the militias in my area are magat infested circlejerks filled with the dough boys or neo-nazis that religiously larp their squeal team six fantasies.
the only benefit would be the hotwife couples that you could meet but even then the various amounts of VD you would be exposing yourself to would make the endeavor worthless. you'd be safer picking up a prostitute. at least then you wouldn't have to listen to hours of brainless fox news propaganda just for fifteen minutes of mediocre sex.
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"for a sec"
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.- Martin Niemöller, Holocaust survivor
Are you only willing to act once they are at your doorstep?
Kinda hard to accomplish anything material from the other side of the country.
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yeah... all the militias in my area are magat infested circlejerks filled with the dough boys or neo-nazis that religiously larp their squeal team six fantasies.
the only benefit would be the hotwife couples that you could meet but even then the various amounts of VD you would be exposing yourself to would make the endeavor worthless. you'd be safer picking up a prostitute. at least then you wouldn't have to listen to hours of brainless fox news propaganda just for fifteen minutes of mediocre sex.
I bet there are more leftists militias and defense groups than you'd think. If somehow there arent then you should look into creating one.
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Must, absolutely must, arm yourselves. Join local militias, self-defense forces, neighborhood Patrol forces, or whatever you call them in your area. Got to prepare.
Yup.
If you even dabble in history you know that the best time to purchase firearms and start training was yesterday. The second best time is today.
This is not alarmist shit. We have crossed some serious thresholds already. Fascism is absolutely here. If enough American citizens make it clear we're ready to use our 2nd amendment right as originally intended, then we can potentially make them fear enough for their safety to limit their fascist actions before things get really dark.
Because if we don't, then this continues spiraling and a lot of people are going to die and it's going to take a lot longer for things to get back to normal.
Again, this is not doomsaying. This is real shit. Pick up a history book. We're already well down the path. The Germans didn't think it was getting too serious until it was too late.
Arm yourselves. Help your friends and family arm themselves. Train with them. Put pressure on your state-level politicians to create a state militia.
It can, and will, happen here if we don't push back.
