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I'm doing my part!

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  • J [email protected]

    Even better: compost the rich!

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    Eating them creates compost in the long run anyway, but with the added benefits of also providing protein to hungry poor people without the damage from factory farming livestock.

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      Surely that can't be legal?

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      It's hard to blame them entirely when the facilities to separate and recycle the waste were never fully built in the US and we spent decades shipping bales of consumer recycling to Asia where it was often deemed too dirty to use for recycling and was burned instead. You can find tons of great articles about the collapses of consumer recycling and the unraveling of the plastic recycling lies sold to the American public, it came about 2021 and continued to be a hot topic through 2023. Today, my shitty neighborhood has collectively stepped down from a proper waste pickup with bins, to 4 guys and a truck who collect and take the waste to a nearby incinerator. We know it can't be an "official" waste collection company by the "We Love Junk" signs on the truck enjoying our cans, but we've been told this is fancy hand collection that is quieter than standard trash trucks and we should be grateful. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

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        Wait till you hear how much pollution the army creates when they decide to mobilize an entire camp for no reason

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        Wow, I'm starting to think the military might be a net negative on this earth.

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          Welcome to dystopia. Time to choom it up or die trying.

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            Wow, I'm starting to think the military might be a net negative on this earth.

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            Just the army

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              Surely it's fraud. They say they're going to recycle (presumably charge whoever they charge based on that too) then just dump it.

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                The thing is just that its not that one woman, but hundreds of millions if not billions of people that follow trash separation rules.
                This would actually have a pretty large effect, however sadly the recycling system is broken and often just a complete lie in many places in the world.

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                The latter half of your comment is why I dont even bother. The "recycling" here is picked up and dumped into the same truck, there is no separation facility, just a landfill/incinerator.

                Im not paying extra to lie to myself.

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                • siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                  It's a fair observation and very agreeable when the intent is to focus deserved ire on the primary element responsible for the wretched state of the world. But this could also be used to absolve oneself of inaction, deny any personal responsibility, to justify exhibiting similar selfish behavior oneself, or to feel smug about demoralizing or shitting on people who seek to improve society somewhat.

                  As the meme itself implies, the exploitation class is the problem that needs to be addressed. No need for anyone else to catch strays.

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                  It really just highlights the growing injustice in the world and that our problems are growing too severe to solve them with personal responsibility. We need to make billionaires illegal or things with keep spiraling downwards.

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                    I don't see it as a way to justify inaction. I see it as a way to be forgiving of myself if I mess up sometimes.

                    Example: in the worst of my grief, I threw away some recyclables because I just couldn't wash them out properly. It took everything just to eat.

                    I didn't pile guilt on myself over it. I recycle 99% of the time, I never litter. I have to check my pockets for random trash before doing laundry.

                    Utility companies, corporations, and rich people are not cleaning up after themselves and their inaction almost negates everything me and everyone I personally know can possibly do.

                    Knowing they are dumping faster than I can shovel doesn't mean I stop shoveling. I still want and actively work to leave this place better than I found it.

                    Those 91 jets just mean I don't feel overwhelming guilt when I fail. I just try to do better next time.

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                    Utility companies, corporations, and rich people are not cleaning up after themselves and their inaction almost negates everything me and everyone I personally know can possibly do.

                    There's no almost about it. On an individual level, anything you and I do to recycle is dwarfed by the callous usage of resources by corporations.

                    You and I are out here doing our best to recycle the vast majority of our plastic waste when one of the local factories throws away more than a month's worth of your plastic refuse every shift when they throw away the plastic wrapping on just supply pallets. They may recycle the cardboard, but so much pallet shrink wrap would get thrown away at receiving and a shit ton more applied at shipping.

                    I fucking hated working for one of the local places and just watched all the plastic waste build up every shift. I still recycle because something is better than nothing, but it's still infuriating to have corpos guilt us about this shit while they do fuck all about it themselves.

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                      Well put. Don't insult the person doing what they can.

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                      instead, redirect them to better use their limited energy

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                        I don't see it as a way to justify inaction. I see it as a way to be forgiving of myself if I mess up sometimes.

                        Example: in the worst of my grief, I threw away some recyclables because I just couldn't wash them out properly. It took everything just to eat.

                        I didn't pile guilt on myself over it. I recycle 99% of the time, I never litter. I have to check my pockets for random trash before doing laundry.

                        Utility companies, corporations, and rich people are not cleaning up after themselves and their inaction almost negates everything me and everyone I personally know can possibly do.

                        Knowing they are dumping faster than I can shovel doesn't mean I stop shoveling. I still want and actively work to leave this place better than I found it.

                        Those 91 jets just mean I don't feel overwhelming guilt when I fail. I just try to do better next time.

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                        Do you think they feel “overwhelming guilt” about those jets?

                        The idea is to blame you for all the plastic shit they have forced you to buy because you need to eat and wipe your ass and clean your floor.

                        They don’t care what bin you put that shit in. It all goes to the same place anyway since they have admitted recycling is a scam and has been for the last 40 years.

                        It’s like conserving water. In the 80s, when there were “droughts” in California, they told people not to flush their toilets. 98% of water is used by commercial agriculture. THEY should be more efficient about their water use. We are subsidizing them. And they export a ton of this shit. Like almonds. Which take a ton of water to grow. (Spoiler alert on where they export that to…)

                        You ever see those public trash cans with like different holes for landfill and recycle, and then see underneath that it all goes into the same bag?

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                        • R [email protected]

                          Eat the rich, but not with plastic cutlery!

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                          please don't eat apex predators, they're high in lead content and other toxins

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                            Wait till you hear how much pollution the army creates when they decide to mobilize an entire camp for no reason

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                            It may have changed now but when I was in the Navy in the late 80s we just tossed all our trash into the ocean twice a day. Everything: paint cans, medical waste, regular trash. It was disgusting

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                              Wow, I'm starting to think the military might be a net negative on this earth.

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                              Navy just dumping jets in the ocean, like fuck it.

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                              • H [email protected]

                                In the US it's nearly impossible since the pandemic. Most waste collection firms are dumping both cans in the same truck and not recycling anything. Plastic recycling in particular turned out to be much more expensive than waste management was prepared to keep doing so they stopped.

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                                Got a source on that “most”? The ones around here DEFINITELY don’t do that.

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                                  You know what's also shitty about recycling? The companies that pick that up bin in some areas throw it in another bin which gets shipped to an "out of country" recycling company to make it someone else's problem. In the shipping process, that plastic falls off into the ocean making a worse problem now than just throwing it into regular waste management. Also, the process to recycle is more toxic than just throwing it away because the companies use really old processes; like paper for example. I gave up recycling except for metals.

                                  edit: I guess i forgot to add "In the US" for the Europeans. Yeah, it's a US problem and nowhere else does this happen I guess.

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                                    You know what's also shitty about recycling? The companies that pick that up bin in some areas throw it in another bin which gets shipped to an "out of country" recycling company to make it someone else's problem. In the shipping process, that plastic falls off into the ocean making a worse problem now than just throwing it into regular waste management. Also, the process to recycle is more toxic than just throwing it away because the companies use really old processes; like paper for example. I gave up recycling except for metals.

                                    edit: I guess i forgot to add "In the US" for the Europeans. Yeah, it's a US problem and nowhere else does this happen I guess.

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                                    In the US the majority of recycling isn't.

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                                      The latter half of your comment is why I dont even bother. The "recycling" here is picked up and dumped into the same truck, there is no separation facility, just a landfill/incinerator.

                                      Im not paying extra to lie to myself.

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                                      i lost faith in recycling the more I read about it.

                                      especially when most recycling is sent to poor countries to be burned, and if it is actually recycled it is then shipped back again as a single use spoon, then sent back... all the way to less quality materials, and some uses are for fleece that produces a shit ton of microplastics.

                                      real solutions is to ban single use plastics (maybe exceptions for medical uses).

                                      now I'm in the States and I have no idea how to recycle where I am anyways.

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                                      • U [email protected]

                                        The thing is just that its not that one woman, but hundreds of millions if not billions of people that follow trash separation rules.
                                        This would actually have a pretty large effect, however sadly the recycling system is broken and often just a complete lie in many places in the world.

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                                        the recycling system is broken and often just a complete lie in many places in the world.

                                        In many places in the world, or mainly the US? I keep seeing this claim repeated but usually any proof is just about the US

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                                        • I [email protected]

                                          In the US the majority of recycling isn't.

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                                          Yeah this is largely a US problem. Not that some of this doesnt happen in other countries but at least in my part of Canada most of the recycling is sold to in-province companies. A few get exported to the states. A very small amount goes to Europe or Asia.

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