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  • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA [email protected]

    Lmao, i find hilarious how first worlders cry about having worker rights, people used to work 16h a day, people still do in some places of earth, you live in comfort and wealth and is ridiculous your inhability to see it, your life is not perfect but oh boy is so so soooooo much better than the one of most humans on earth.

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    "It could always be worse" is an excuse to never improve things. What's really ridiculous is your inability to see how much of our productivity goes toward enriching a few and how easy it would be for them to give back tons of wealth they've taken from us and still live like kings, plus it would improve the conditions of those people working 16h a day because they're being exploited by the same wealthy class.

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      People didn't end up with 40 hour work week, people fought to get it that low

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        Well, better than getting eaten up by Tyranids. Though this is so very arguable

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        • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA [email protected]

          IIRC that number was debunked.

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          I'm rebunking it right now

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            I'm rebunking it right now

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            Can we unbunk it just long enough to determine if it's bunk?

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              Have you informed Kermit about this?

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              What do you think their comment is doing? 😂

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              • F [email protected]

                No, you have ended up in a country with 40 hours working week.

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                In most countries it's a lot more. Throughout human history it has typically been a lot more.

                Getting the work day down to 8 hours required violent riots that resulted in bombs being thrown at the police and people being hanged after quick show trials. And even once the work day was reduced to 8 hours, it was a while before the work week was reduced to only 5 days. Interestingly, the US initially led the world in reducing the length of the work week. But, these days it has been completely captured by oligarchs and unions are the weakest of any country in the developed world, so it has fallen far behind on any kind of worker rights compared to the rest of the world.

                40 hours may feel like a lot, but throughout most of human history only working 40 hours was a privilege available only to the nobility. It's possible to get the 40 hours reduced even further in the US, but it will probably once again require massive demonstrations, and it seems unlikely that it will happen without violence and death.

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                • H [email protected]

                  And remember, we only need to produce 30% of what we are producing for everyone to live comfortably.

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                  All it would take is not being human.

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                  • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                    Workers shall unite again

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                    Not unless tens of billions more people join unions.

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                      It's not a function of space, but of time. Work load used to be significantly less in the medieval ages.

                      Modern work load is caused by progress and the high demand for human workforce that it brings with it.

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                      • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA [email protected]

                        Lmao, i find hilarious how first worlders cry about having worker rights, people used to work 16h a day, people still do in some places of earth, you live in comfort and wealth and is ridiculous your inhability to see it, your life is not perfect but oh boy is so so soooooo much better than the one of most humans on earth.

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                        but oh boy is so so soooooo much better than the one of most humans on earth

                        that's mostly because the US wouldn't stop bombing and overthrowing democratically elected governments in the rest of the world, tbh though

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                          United States of America is not a planet.

                          There are countries with both more and less work hours.

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                          What countries have a smaller work week?!

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                            People didn't end up with 40 hour work week, people fought to get it that low

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                            And in all honesty should have fought for a 4 day workweek right after.

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                              Crazy that we ended up at all, really

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                                Let me introduce you to France and its 35h workweeks

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